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[ginwilly]

geez, you got all butthurt because you thought I think you are stupid yet you think it's OK to call me that. Also, if you think I'm a statist you are even denser than you appear.I even asked for an explanation how you rectify in your mind the stuff you spew here, giving you a chance to make me less of an idiot yet you can't, so it's name calling and picture time. Let's do it in separate parts.

Would you, as an admitted anarchist like to see a decrease (to the point of abolishing) in the size and scope of our central government?

Would you, as an admitted anarchist like to see a decrease in spending from those same central planners?

Do you know what austerity means?

 

[abandonconflict]

removed

Are you still going to say you don't hate Jews?

 

[ginwilly]

No, I'm just calling you a statist idiot.

When you repeatedly demonstrate stupidity, it can't be considered rude to call you an idiot. I will state the concept once again, since you fail to see how a "free-market" as you call it, is entirely dependent upon gov't. The state exists to protect private property. Try and connect the dots and keep up.

When Glog the caveman traded some of his mammoth for a little bit of Gorg's fish, that's free-trade.

Why does a government need to be involved here? How can you say a government must exist for Glog and Gorg to trade?

And you call me an idiot and accuse me of being condescending to you. OK that 2nd part is true, but you make it almost mandatory to not take you too seriously. Yes I do feel like I'm talking to a petulant child when I get involved with you.

 

[abandonconflict]

geez

I predicted you would attempt to derail the thread by stubbornly sticking to a distortion you made. You're annoying and dishonest. I will state again, what I said was to the effect of austerity being collective misery.

You are insisting that I am calling for stimulus and repeating incessantly that it is a contradiction in anarchism. It is not and you are wrong. I oppose capitalism, from Friedman to Keynes. if you don't get it, that's your problem.

 

[ginwilly]

I predicted you would attempt to derail the thread by stubbornly sticking to a distortion you made. You're annoying and dishonest. I will state again, what I said was to the effect of austerity being collective misery.

You are insisting that I am calling for stimulus and repeating incessantly that it is a contradiction in anarchism. It is not and you are wrong. I oppose capitalism, from Friedman to Keynes. if you don't get it, that's your problem.

So again, those questions too tough? Let's drop stimulus from the argument here and focus on austerity and central planning. Can you answer those questions you ignored? Or is it easier for you to just post pictures of somebody saying something unrelated?

Btw, calling me a statist exposes your lack of understanding to many of your fellow leftists who've clashed with me over central planning. They are probably wishing you would quit doing that and would stick to Chomsky quotes that are totally irrelevant.

 

[abandonconflict]

Why don't you start a thread dedicated to it? I told you, in plain english, that austerity is collective misery. That's why it is called austerity and that is why it is austere. It means that we get fucking austere in order for the gov't to balance the fucking budget.

 

[GOD HERE]

Explain it then? Why is decreased government to the point of none = good in the anarchist world, but decreased government spending of any kind is collective misery in the anarchist world.

Understand for the sake of argument that an anarchist believes in self rule and no government.

Realize please where a government gets the money they are spending that less of = collective misery

I've seen you demonize education twice now, that's always the mark of a moron, thinking being uneducated somehow makes them smarter.

Second, I would assume he's doing what any logical person would do in this situation, keeping the respective social systems within their own spheres. In an anarchist society, there would be very little hierarchy and no wage based labour. A lot of anarchists support a gift economy. Capitalism on the other hand requires the management of capital. Over time the economy degrades. It seems he would be thinking about the most logical way to keep the economy going. It doesn't mean he's a liberal or in favor of keeping the system around. It might help you in the future to know what you're talking about before you open your mouth about something you don't understand.

 

[ginwilly]

well man this was a fun few pages of me asking how no government = good, yet if that evil government we don't want decreases spending of the people's money= bad.

The answers have been, you don't get it, you're just stupid, you're a statist, you're an idiot. Even dropped some big font on me to get your point across.

The problem I have, I truly don't understand your point that no government is good but they better not cut spending. I see now that I will never get an answer so I'm moving on with life. When I forget how miserable it is to try to have a conversation with you I'll probably get sucked in again. Until then, enjoy.

 

[GOD HERE]

So again, those questions too tough? Let's drop stimulus from the argument here and focus on austerity and central planning. Can you answer those questions you ignored? Or is it easier for you to just post pictures of somebody saying something unrelated?

Btw, calling me a statist exposes your lack of understanding to many of your fellow leftists who've clashed with me over central planning. They are probably wishing you would quit doing that and would stick to Chomsky quotes that are totally irrelevant.

Einstein believed central planning was imperative in an economy. You also obviously don't like Chomsky. It seems you think your somehow more intelligent than these men who are recognized as geniuses in their fields.

 

[abandonconflict]

So again, those questions too tough? Let's drop stimulus from the argument here and focus on austerity and central planning. Can you answer those questions you ignored? Or is it easier for you to just post pictures of somebody saying something unrelated?

Btw, calling me a statist exposes your lack of understanding to many of your fellow leftists who've clashed with me over central planning. They are probably wishing you would quit doing that and would stick to Chomsky quotes that are totally irrelevant.

You absolutely are a statist. Just because you believe that equality requires central planning does not make it so. The gov't exists to protect private property.

When ever someone calls me a statist on the other hand, I take a piss on the constitution and spit on a burning US flag in the dirt.

 

[ginwilly]

I've seen you demonize education twice now, that's always the mark of a moron, thinking being uneducated somehow makes them smarter.

Second, I would assume he's doing what any logical person would do in this situation, keeping the respective social systems within their own spheres. In an anarchist society, there would be very little hierarchy and no wage based labour. A lot of anarchists support a gift economy. Capitalism on the other hand requires the management of capital. Over time the economy degrades. It seems he would be thinking about the most logical way to keep the economy going. It doesn't mean he's a liberal or in favor of keeping the system around. It might help you in the future to know what you're talking about before you open your mouth about something you don't understand.

I have two master's of science degrees, wtf are you talking about? I may have criticized our education system, but never education.

AC has repeated time and again that hierarchy would not exist in his utopia. It seems it's you that don't understand and are projecting your beliefs into what he should be saying instead of what he actually is saying.

Now since he won't explain it, I'll ask you. How can anarchy be in polarization of decreasing government spending?

 

[abandonconflict]

I have two master's of science degrees, wtf are you talking about? I may have criticized our education system, but never education.

AC has repeated time and again that hierarchy would not exist in his utopia. It seems it's you that don't understand and are projecting your beliefs into what he should be saying instead of what he actually is saying.

Now since he won't explain it, I'll ask you. How can anarchy be in polarization of decreasing government spending?

Hey Mr. 2 master's degrees, you came into this thread toting the same debate you lost last time, with that distortion of yours and now you've weaseled away from it onto calling me a utopian who has repeated time and again that hierarchy can't exist in "my utopia".

My utopia is anarchism, so it is true, hierarchy can't exist in anarchism, by definition.

 

[abandonconflict]

How can anarchy be in polarization of decreasing government spending?

For a guy who claims to have 2 master's degrees, you are a dummy.

Anarchy is in polarization of decreased gov't spending, because anarchy IS IN POLARIZATION TO GOV'T!

 

[GOD HERE]

I have two master's of science degrees, wtf are you talking about? I may have criticized our education system, but never education.

AC has repeated time and again that hierarchy would not exist in his utopia. It seems it's you that don't understand and are projecting your beliefs into what he should be saying instead of what he actually is saying.

Now since he won't explain it, I'll ask you. How can anarchy be in polarization of decreasing government spending?

Hahahahha 2 masters... Please keep going.

 

[abandonconflict]

See how you did that

I said austerity is collective misery, therefore you're the actual collectivist dystopian.

You turned it into "wants a bigger stimulus" and will go on for pages about how they mean the same thing.

This is extremely annoying and I would appreciate if you just made a thread about how they mean the same thing so I could ignore it.

This was the first thing I said to you in this thread.

 

[ginwilly]

You absolutely are a statist. Just because you believe that equality requires central planning does not make it so. The gov't exists to protect private property.

When ever someone calls me a statist on the other hand, I take a piss on the constitution and spit on a burning US flag in the dirt.

You've said the bolded before, who's thought was it originally?

I'm an individualist. I believe that a one size fits all rule is detrimental to our development as a society. I believe if we treated the individual instead of the collective we would have more success in the advancement of the human race.

I believe the hierarchy of power as our fore fathers laid out is my home, my community, my state, then my country. A statist is the opposite. Surely you know this, you hang with the leftist central planners on most topics, the statists here are very obvious about it and to compare me to those thinkers are surely pissing them off.

On a positive note. We didn't get the thread locked, so that's nice. Later man, this isn't entertainment anymore.

 

[abandonconflict]

You've said the bolded before, who's thought was it originally?

I'm an individualist. I believe that a one size fits all rule is detrimental to our development as a society. I believe if we treated the individual instead of the collective we would have more success in the advancement of the human race.

I believe the hierarchy of power as our fore fathers laid out is my home, my community, my state, then my country. A statist is the opposite. Surely you know this, you hang with the leftist central planners on most topics, the statists here are very obvious about it and to compare me to those thinkers are surely pissing them off.

On a positive note. We didn't get the thread locked, so that's nice. Later man, this isn't entertainment anymore.

To the bold, no that is actually a statist, sorry. You got ripped off on that education of yours, Mr 2 master's degrees.

 

[ginwilly]

Hahahahha 2 masters... Please keep going.

The first was in Physical Therapy decades ago, then last year I finished my Infomatics after being recruited into the clinical application side of medicine. I'm currently part of a team that is making sure electronic health records at clinics, hospitals and doctor's offices meet Meaningful Use criteria as spelled out in Obamacare. It's not really important if you believe me or not. Just thought I'd let you know where I'm coming from.

 

[abandonconflict]

Maybe BJs for all is the answer to world peace?

maybe for the people receiving

 

[abandonconflict]

I believe the hierarchy of power as our fore fathers laid out is my home, my community, my state, then my country. A statist is the opposite.

Do you even philosophy bro?