1- you have a sad point of view if you think this is an argument. 2- nothing needs to be proven now. It is in front of a jury. The judge has decided what to allow. Justice is next. 3 - Justice is not solely based on facts with Juries. And facts are only presented into evidence, well or badly 4 - Less benefit of the doubt for a minor child in a back dog run on a rainy night, in rightful place and un-armed 5 - People can tell when there are lies. It is in the micro-expressions if they can explain it or not. 6 - It all changes in a fight when someone draws on an un-armed minor child, 158 pounds with a heart monitor 7- This entire thing is too weak to say, "fear for ones life" unless there was a struggle for the gun, a free gun is the buzz words. No free gun here. 8 - This entire thing is too weak to say, "fear for one's life" if Zim had the presence to to draw, clear the elbow, clear Martin's hands, and bring the weapon inside the fight were he say was afraid of it going. But that is why he drew. It doesn't make sense. 9 - Zim tried to concoct "another weapon" story. "..thought he had a peice of concrete in his hand." No evidence of that. Pulled his hands out to cover Zim smashing his own nose to go with his head scratch. No evidence at all, that these injuries are not just faked. Especially the nose. He certainly exaggerated the entire thing and has been shown to be lying about it. If you think you can't smash, you own nose to cover a rage gone bad, think again. I have done that to myself accidentally. Turn him over spread hands out, smash own nose on the ground. Get up and look like you had to kill him. Begin the story line. Too many lies. So, if I stipulate to all of what you say, Muy, there is still nothing that gives the guy the right to kill. A gun in my right hand with you on top trying to quiet me, goes into your left ribs hard. And if that don't make you jump back, Jack....(think about that barrel punch to the left ribs) I say, get off me motherfucker. And then I clop him very stiffly in the temple. That is how I'm trained to not kill. If someone is unarmed and me with a gun, I won't kill him without cause. Very bad. But, woudl I be chasing a kid with some bullshit story about looking for the exact address. No. That was the death of a child. Very bad. Now where was Zims hands in all this fighting? He didn't land any blows. He didn't grab Trevons neck like any of us will do automatically. No, he squirmed. He says off to the grass, witness says squirmed ONTO the concrete. A guy chases an unarmed boy in the dark with a gun and initiates a confrontation. And instead of using the gun properly in this situation he killed him,for no real reason, but his story, from about 1 foot away, straight to the heart. But, I'm not on the jury and not arguing the case.