How to save 58% on nutrient costs using AN products and still grow huge buds.

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oxanaca

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AN is such a joke.
i mix my own fertillizers, i can copy any of theres fertillizers for under $25 for a five gallon bucket
 
I understand what you say mate but if you getting that much product then a few extra quid isn't so bad anyhoo just my pennies worth a lot of messing about for just using your old nutes as a top up for new ones why not just stick to schedual ?
 

HeartlandHank

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--I am really just curious as to when the nickel and dime logic started really making sense around here?

--The Dyna-Grower emerges out of this landscape convinced that there is absolutely no merit to additives and no blowback in terms of yeild or quality.

--By this, I mean the cost-benefit analysis based on the growers needs for optimum conditions as well as appealing arithmetic. To run a tight ship the master grower needs repeatability eventually. The constant tinkering and switching of products used or unused makes for a long term issue in this regard. So, what to do??? Take notes....work towards principles of economy by letting your garden thrive to it's potential.
-- If a loaf of bread is on the shelf, $2... next to it is an equal/better bread, $1.50.. Is buying the better bread for $1.50 nickle and dime logic?

-- Yep... pretty much. Have you tried it yet? Come up with your own opinion.

-- Yep... I tinkered and tinkered. Honestly, my opinion... You can do really well with most any brand. It's all about the balance of a complete nute. What attracts ME to DG is how easy it is to use. One bottle, dump it in, ph it. No need for anything else. I used to think Root Excel and Hygrozyme were doing something for me. Then I would run out for some weeks and not make it to the store. Slowly I realized they did nothing for me beyond making my wallet lighter... You can call it Nickle and Dime logic... But really, it's just money that you don't need to spend.

For me personally... every dollar counts.
 

Imaulle

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great to see Uncle Ben still sharing his knowledge and putting you dummies in your place !! long live Uncle Ben and his teachings :clap:
 

burgertime2010

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-- If a loaf of bread is on the shelf, $2... next to it is an equal/better bread, $1.50.. Is buying the better bread for $1.50 nickle and dime logic? -- Yep... pretty much. Have you tried it yet? Come up with your own opinion. -- Yep... I tinkered and tinkered. Honestly, my opinion... You can do really well with most any brand. It's all about the balance of a complete nute. What attracts ME to DG is how easy it is to use. One bottle, dump it in, ph it. No need for anything else. I used to think Root Excel and Hygrozyme were doing something for me. Then I would run out for some weeks and not make it to the store. Slowly I realized they did nothing for me beyond making my wallet lighter... You can call it Nickle and Dime logic... But really, it's just money that you don't need to spend. For me personally... every dollar counts.
I have tried it, I am tired of being misunderstood. Nickle and dime logic is when that is the only reason one sees. People respond with the assumptions, ready to prove me wrong about the nothing they know about me. If a loaf of great bread was on sale for 1.50 as was dg. Would DG still be the best? For some this is an investment and they shop motivated on return. My motive is meds, all i get is anecdotal jabs about anything but dg. I use products that are not wasting anything. get all items at wholesale and thus know a fact most are overrated but some if used properly are just great products. Be thrifty, great. I wish DG was the best product, the cheapest, non toxic but it simply isnt true. I have a problem with nickle and dime intellect.
 

burgertime2010

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You should allow people to converse, because it is the most potent indicator of curiosity and intellect. Dummies are not the ones here asking anything, rather behaving like a master and offering nothing. Ben is into girls sorry.
 

joe macclennan

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For some this is an investment and they shop motivated on return. My motive is meds,
I'm shocked! There is someone here who cares about their results. OMG
Be thrifty, great. I wish DG was the best product, the cheapest, non toxic but it simply isnt true. I have a problem with nickle and dime intellect.
And why should we believe you have the best,cheapest,nontoxic blahblabla magic bullet answer to everyones nutritional requirements?

I use products that are not wasting anything.
And how exactly, do you know you are not "wasting anything" ?

all i get is anecdotal jabs about anything but dg.
Which is exactly what you seem to be doing about dg :joint:


-- If a loaf of bread is on the shelf, $2... next to it is an equal/better bread, $1.50.. Is buying the better bread for $1.50 nickle and dime logic?

-- Yep... I tinkered and tinkered. Honestly, my opinion... You can do really well with most any brand. It's all about the balance of a complete nute. What attracts ME to DG is how easy it is to use. One bottle, dump it in, ph it. No need for anything else. I used to think Root Excel and Hygrozyme were doing something for me. Then I would run out for some weeks and not make it to the store. Slowly I realized they did nothing for me beyond making my wallet lighter... You can call it Nickle and Dime logic... But really, it's just money that you don't need to spend.

For me personally... every dollar counts.
Your entire post is spot on.+++


  • You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to HeartlandHank again.








You should allow people to converse, because it is the most potent indicator of curiosity and intellect. Dummies are not the ones here asking anything, rather behaving like a master and offering nothing. Ben is into girls sorry.
Posts like this are what make you look like an argumentative douchebag. You haven't "offered" much here either.

At least uncle ben has been around for a while and his advice is widely respected around here. Common sense no nonsense advice......horrible

I have used several diff. brands of nutes. Ionic,botanicare,GH, AN and yes dyna. I like the dyna gro series the best by far. Any of these can get you good results if you spend enough time to dial em in. Uncle ben is right green leaves till harvest and you will be happy.

The fact that the dyna series is just so dead simple to use, produces very good results and is a much higher concentrate compared to some other brands makes it economical and efficient for many folks.

If you've got a buddy who gets you your nutes and whatever else you use at wholesale prices, which allows you to run all the "bells and whistles" that's great. I'm happy for you bro. Most of us don't have that.

. I don't consider myself to be an "expert" at all. I am still trying to find that sweet spot myself with the dynagro series. I have taken homebrewers advice on adding some gro to my flower rez. and am really liking what I am seeing there so far .
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hyroot

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you all know nothing and i know everything, there i settled it.








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this person is not responsible for the claims this person made and this persons actions do not reflect on this person or persons who are responsible for the actions made by this claim...lol


 

Imaulle

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You should allow people to converse, because it is the most potent indicator of curiosity and intellect. Dummies are not the ones here asking anything, rather behaving like a master and offering nothing. Ben is into girls sorry.
I have no problem with conversation except when people make outrageous claims like Advanced Nutrients is worth the high premium price and blah blah blah
 

burgertime2010

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I have no problem with conversation except when people make outrageous claims like Advanced Nutrients is worth the high premium price and blah blah blah
The jungle juice is cheap as shit without a discount and I got 2 big lovely pulls maybe even biggest ever. a/b 25-30 bux. Just saying this cause its not expensive....bonus is it works in coco
 

Shivaskunk

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Wow Burgertime....you learned how to growtwo'strains really well'so'that makes you a specialist?....no it makes you a commercial farmer under the guise of being a medical provider and speaking like you are a dr to your patients. Look I "medically supply" people too and used to do just straight commercial because there was nomsuch thing as medical weed. You grow ONE or two strains for a reason....yield+consistency=your momey.

Your over priced AN nutes wont grow 20% more than just using flora'micro,bloom...and some pk boost...Id bet you money on that.

What AN is good for is for New and/or lazy growers who prefer to take instructions over thinking for themselves. If you want to spend 3-400 dollars on nutrients for one grow and follow a daily spelled out for you plan thats your business.... You will probably even grow'some good'bud.


...but don't go talking like you know and can get 20-25% more yield because you spent more'and used 12 different bottles of shit because thats utter bullshit. KNOWING how to read your plants and tailor intake for specific strains and growth stages + lots of good light is what gets yields even with cheap'ass base nutrients.
 

Uncle Ben

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How to save 58% on nutrient costs using AN products and still grow huge buds.

Solution - don't be such a fool by wasting your money in the first place.

This really is funny stuff!
 

ProfessorPotSnob

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The Connoisseur A+B also have pH perfect that make pH balancing sooo much easier. NO other company has that. I would rather spend the extra money for convenience and reliability
Sorry but your wrong , Lawrence Broooke discovered General Hydroponics Legendary ph stability back in the 70's . Do not buy into this one as ph perfect has been around longer than big mike and his money machine called Advanced Nutrients .

Glad I do not buy meds , especially from those who waste hundreds to grow a common flowering herb . Barnum was right , there is a sucker born every minute . Your photos show excessive nutrient burn , might want to cut down and save another dollar while keeping them green .
 

Situation420

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I guess I didn't understand, but this is what you said..



Then you went on to list a shitload of classes. Made it sound like they were somehow all taken in 4 months. I agree that you needed to take more english classes, and perhaps some comprehension classes as well.
Sorry for your all of the misunderstandings. I see that leaving a word out and not going back to edit my post has had a number of people feeling like I should take english classes in addition to the classes I listed. For one, this is a forum, not a formal setting at all. Secondly, I already have taken 4 english classes, including literary analysis, english composition 1 and 2, and a business technical writing class.
For example, let's look at your post. It seems as though you like to write in incomplete sentences and not use parallel sentence structuring correctly. Also, when referring to an emotional state in the past and drawing a conclusion in the present, the tenses of the words "I agree" and "you needed" should be in agreement. (I agreed that you needed or I agree that you need) I think they teach that in high school english along with how to properly construct a sentence. I think you should keep working on whatever education you are pursuing and just relax on critiquing the english in a web forum.
 

Situation420

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Sorry but your wrong , Lawrence Broooke discovered General Hydroponics Legendary ph stability back in the 70's . Do not buy into this one as ph perfect has been around longer than big mike and his money machine called Advanced Nutrients .

Glad I do not buy meds , especially from those who waste hundreds to grow a common flowering herb . Barnum was right , there is a sucker born every minute . Your photos show excessive nutrient burn , might want to cut down and save another dollar while keeping them green .
Sounds like you don't understand the difference between a good harvest and a great harvest. From what I've seen from guys your age that grow is quality product, but a lot less of it, in a lot longer time. Times have changed old man, and the understanding of what plants need for growth is far more complex now than back in your day. They also have known about pH stability in hydroponics and water sources since the 1930's. No big deal, and no thats not true about general hydroponics, their products used to be the most stable, until dutchmaster and advanced nutrients came out. That minor instability of pH in during a harvest can add up to about a 20% or more loss of bud and quality. I would rather pay a little more to know I was getting the best results possible than try to save a couple bucks buying a cheap fertilizer. Your probably the dad who buys there kid the kindle when they asked for an iPad haha.

EDIT: Also that isnt nute burn, it was heat, my power went off n my heat didnt turn on for 2 days and it was 100 in there for 2 days, if you look at the lower leaves there not like that indicating that it was excessive heat from a source above the plants. An experienced grower would have noticed that along with the curled leaf tips
 

Situation420

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Who is posting pics of scraggly overfed nutrient deff. plants?

UMMM. that'd be you


good advice chuck, but he won't take it. He is getting "amazing" results now.



Situation.... you should listen to those who know more than you. Like this guy^^^



Thank you for the new line in my sig. Many will get a kick out of it I am sure.



Ahh, no. Hydroponics achieves faster growth. Not larger. Plants can grow just as big in dirt. It just takes longer.

Typical noobie Knowitall. Grown a couple of crops and sold it to your college buddies. Wait till ya get out in the real world buddy.
Thanx chuck, all I see is fat buds and some excessive heat exposure on the leaves but I guess thats hard to for you to see when your so angry all the time. An angry gardener grows angry weed, I wouldn't want to smoke your salty herb grandpa. Go be an old man somewhere else, stop being grumpy old man all over my threads.
 
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