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Brotherdoses

Brotherdoses

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Ahh Yea, a super soil thread! Whats up y'all? I am new around here. I am doing my first super soil grow and its my second cannabis grow ever. Did it once 10 years ago. Now I am legal.
 
jbrown3

jbrown3

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very strange that are initials are the same and are names on here are similar, and im basically using the same lineup of nutes as you, i had to bring that up hahaah
 
sincitygrowJB

sincitygrowJB

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Hi guys I have a ???? I'm not that good with math lol!!! so need some help on how much of each ingredient to mix with my soil I have a list of my ingredient I have about 5lbs of each ingredient so thanks to who ever can help me out!!! JB
6 bags of organic soil and 30lbs of EWC
Alfalfa Meal: 2-1-2
Blood Meal: 13-0-0
Bone Meal: 3-15-0
Kelp Meal: .6-.5-2.5
bat guano 0-5-0
Azomite
Humic powder
dolomite lime
Epson salts
Roots XL Mycorrhizae
 
DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Buddha's Botany said:
Please don't take this as a pop shot at you...but how are you defining organic vs. inorganic gardening?

Because all organisms use and need all sorts of inorganic compounds to thrive and in order to get silica into your plant's organically you would be limited to a list of carbon bound Si sources like C8H10O2S when an inorganic compound like CaSiO3 might be just as or maybe even a more accessible (idk off the top of my head if it is or not but you get my point right?) and natural yet inorganic. Just like MgSO4 (epsom salt) is often accepted as an "organic" amendment but there isn't anything organic about it.

Or is growing "organically" just a matter of using naturally occurring substances instead of using compounds unacceptably over processed/refined/concentrated by human kind? Does it really matter as long as it doesn't disturb/damage the micro fauna in your grow medium and get's whatever organism you are growing what it needs to thrive without using any other potentially harmful binding agents/peservatives etc?


Like you said the definition of organic gardening is not exactly standardized....just trying to get a better feel for both other members and your views on what is and is not organic gardening with regard to soil building.

OP thanks for the killer vid it's always really neat to see how other people do things.
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Good points....

SFM....Organic is as naturally occurring and healthy as I can readily obtain and conveniently utilize and prefer natural processes in regards to collection, consumption and disposal \ recycling of. However as noted inorganic material can be more accessible, be that environmentally as naturally occurring or unnaturally but nonetheless by product of utilization is unchanged then if natural organic material use inorganic material in a naturally occurring way. I am good with that.
 
sincitygrowJB

sincitygrowJB

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TrichomeBob said:
If a recipe says 500g of guano 0-5-0, how much guano of 1-10-1 should I use?
ppresuming 250g right?
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yea I can see what your saying but the recipe that I seen had 8 bags of soil i'm using 6 and the ingredient calls for you to use 5lbs of each ingredients so your saying just cut it in half or add a little more because I'm using 6 bags just wanted a little input thank u for your thoughts!!! JB
 
TrichomeBob

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Yh same sort of recipe, but ive just scaled it down, I don't need to make up that much, so basically it's just a quarter of everything, the NPK values confuse me though.

im still not sure on the guano, the recipe says use 0-5-0 guano, but onei can get is 1-10-1 , now doi only use half, or do I will use 500g
 
TrichomeBob

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sincitygrowJB said:
yea I can see what your saying but the recipe that I seen had 8 bags of soil i'm using 6 and the ingredient calls for you to use 5lbs of each ingredients so your saying just cut it in half or add a little more because I'm using 6 bags just wanted a little input thank u for your thoughts!!! JB
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If ur using six bags, ur making up 75% batch really, so just use 75% of all ingredients, if its says 5 pounds, use 3.75 pounds, u get me?

google side wings recipe on here, it's basically subs recipe but with a few more amendments and slightly less hot, the dude seems pretty knowledgable and started with subs recipe but just perfected over the grows, basically what sub tells U to do, but I can't be fucked to figure it out myself due to space issues so gonna copy, lol
 
TrichomeBob

TrichomeBob

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An easy thing for u to do is this, work out how many grams of each thing the recipe says, so 5 pounds is 2268g (google it), divide the 2268 by 100 = 22.68, then times by 75, which is 1701, so u need 1701grams.

just do that for everything and I will give u what's need for a 6 bag mix.

(8bag weight in grams) / 100 x 75 = (6bag weight in grams)
x 50 = (4bag weight in grams)
x 25 = (2bag weight in grams)
 
sincitygrowJB

sincitygrowJB

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let me know what you think!!!6 bags oforganic soil and 30lbs of EWC8 cupsAlfalfa Meal: 2-1-28 cups BloodMeal: 13-0-0 8cups Bone Meal: 3-15-0
8cups Kelp Meal: .6-.5-2.5
8cups bat guano 0-5-0
½cup Azomite
2 TBS Humic powder
1 cup dolomite lime
¾ cup Epson salts
3 oz Roots XL Mycorrhizae
 
TrichomeBob

TrichomeBob

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sincitygrowJB said:
let me know what you think!!!6 bags oforganic soil and 30lbs of EWC8 cupsAlfalfa Meal: 2-1-28 cups BloodMeal: 13-0-0 8cups Bone Meal: 3-15-0
8cups Kelp Meal: .6-.5-2.5
8cups bat guano 0-5-0
½cup Azomite
2 TBS Humic powder
1 cup dolomite lime
¾ cup Epson salts
3 oz Roots XL Mycorrhizae
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I reckon u need more azomite, and myco, and humicand maybe others, how many grams in a cup?


Look at my recipe above, you want 3 times that amount of stuff, so 600g of azomite, 150g alfalfa, 60g humic, 24g Epsom, 210g dolomite, 300g sea kelp, 1500g bone meal/guano/blood meal each, if I was making up a 6 bag batch, that's what I would use.
 
TrichomeBob

TrichomeBob

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In my mix for the Recipe I posted was only for 2 bags, our bags here are slightly bigger, in US, 2 bags is roughly 85 litres, here 2 bags is 100 litres.

if I could get it I would add Alaskan humus 200g to the 2 bag mix but can't get it here.

the reason I'm only making two bag mixes is that I'm still tryna find the best base soil, can't get roots, so I'm trying 3 types and running them to see which is best.
 
sincitygrowJB

sincitygrowJB

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JB Super Soil Mix 019.jpgJB Super Soil Mix 030.jpgJB Super Soil Mix 004.jpgJB Super Soil Mix 005.jpg So mix the super soil up last night here's a few pics of what I used and I end up doing a 1/2 batch because I used the other two bags of soil to transplant but this is what I used let me know what u guys think!!! ½ Batch:Super Soil
4 bags Dr.Earth Soil
25 lbs. Worm Castings
2.5 lbs Fish Bone Meal
2.5 lbs Bat Guano
2.5 lbs Blood Meal
2.5 lbs AlfalfaMeal
2.5 lbs Kelp Meal
1 cup Sweet (dolomite)Lime ½cup Epsom Salts ½ cup Azomite
1/2 cup Powdered HumicAcid
 
TrichomeBob

TrichomeBob

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sincitygrowJB said:
View attachment 2733057View attachment 2733058View attachment 2733060View attachment 2733061 So mix the super soil up last night here's a few pics of what I used and I end up doing a 1/2 batch because I used the other two bags of soil to transplant but this is what I used let me know what u guys think!!! ½ Batch:Super Soil
4 bags Dr.Earth Soil
25 lbs. Worm Castings
2.5 lbs Fish Bone Meal
2.5 lbs Bat Guano
2.5 lbs Blood Meal
2.5 lbs AlfalfaMeal
2.5 lbs Kelp Meal
1 cup Sweet (dolomite)Lime ½cup Epsom Salts ½ cup Azomite
1/2 cup Powdered HumicAcid
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Thats a lot and I mean a lot of alfalfa, u need to be careful with that stuff as it has hormones that prevent flowering. If made up a 4 bag mix I would have used about 100g, u used over a kilo!!!!

i dunno what to say, someone with more info should give some advice, but I'd be wary in using that mix now!

i would have put more azomite in too, and less epsoms and kelp. Where did get that recipe from?
 
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