joe macclennan
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Jesus man when it rains it pours huh? I feel your pain.
Not likely
Did they at least fix your regulator for you today?
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Did they at least fix your regulator for you today?
GreenSanta
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ReefBongwell
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It was weird... didn't get it to do the same thing there... it wouldn't even get cold... (of course it was like 85 degrees in there) -- bring it home and it does the exact same thing still. I'm gonna try it in another room today and see if maybe it's the humidity or temps or something in that room... though they shouldn't be that different from last run where I had no co2 issues... only difference was the ac vent was on the roof and the ac in here is a bit closer... I even tried turning the ac up to 78 but no luck...
Yes I'd honestly I'd probably rather be hooking up 600-800w LEDs instead, however I just don't have the money for that at the moment since they cost 4x the cost of a 1k hps and that's even a 1k with the fanciest hood & bulb you can get... if i was going cheapest 1k setup I could run the cost would be 6x!wouldnt have this problem with 600 watts LED
The circuit was definitely handling over 1K electrical draw between the 600w and 900w of LEDs (by power draw) on the same dual-outlet timer.... so definitely can handle over 1k.
Just gonna hate to go down there and have'm plug it in no problem somehow like yesterday with the co2
InternationalGreen
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Been lurking brother.
Looks unreal in that room
I can see a visibly obvious improvement in this run compared to the last one!
Also, I've def. got the jack dominant Ace! Thanks for sharing info.
Only difference made this last veg was letting them grow 60 days before flip, and the use of foliars.
All went well as you can see, and are in the OP.
But what have you done different as this point to improve your results?
Any secrets available?
Better & better
10,000
Looks unreal in that room
I can see a visibly obvious improvement in this run compared to the last one!
Also, I've def. got the jack dominant Ace! Thanks for sharing info.
Only difference made this last veg was letting them grow 60 days before flip, and the use of foliars.
All went well as you can see, and are in the OP.
But what have you done different as this point to improve your results?
Any secrets available?
Better & better
10,000
SOMEBEECH
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My 1ks pull only 9amps per.I did buy a used one a few yrs back and didnt try it before I left,Too.
Went and got my money back,and just bought a rebuild 1k kit,from 1000bulbs...like 95bucks,easy to
wire em,and I just used the other cords.
This is when I went away from 600s and to 1ks.
Beech
Went and got my money back,and just bought a rebuild 1k kit,from 1000bulbs...like 95bucks,easy to
wire em,and I just used the other cords.
This is when I went away from 600s and to 1ks.
Beech
bigworm6969
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Hey reef whats up my dude , so ur saying ur ballast wasnt working and u took it back and it worked there then u get it home again and it dont work at all, if thats the case maybe ur electric is fucked up some where a regular house circuit is 20amps ur only suppose to use 15% of the cicuit so thats say 15 amps, a 1000watt is like 10amps now im just ballparking it i say a 100watts is 1 amp so a 1000 watt light is 10amps follow me so u should be able to plug a 1000 watt light in and some fans and couple other things,a fan dont use up hardle ne electric at all maybe a 100watt which i 1amp, so if you got more then one circuit in ur room you should be able to run 3000watts or 30 amps, you need to flick ur room breaker off and see if any thing else is still on is working to tell if you have more then one circuit into ur room, on my room i only have one wall outlet and it has other stuffing working on it also so i ran a 10/2 wire straight from the fusebow all the way to my grow room and since 10gauge is a thick wire i hook it to a 30amp circuit breaker instead of a 20amp, so know i plug both of my 1000watts into just one wall outlet and have a whole other outlet to plug my fans a pumps and anything else i got, i hope this helps basicly if you got 2 different wall outlets in ur room that r hooked up to 2 different circuit breakers you should be good,1 1000watt into one and the other 1000 watt into the other, if not u could always run an extension courd to wherever u got a different outlet on a different breaker, good luck
ambedexteras
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just checked out the thread bongwell.. nicely done man. very nice. repped ya for the sick line
up and the frame that i assume u built urself. harvest coming soon man ill be back to check it out cuz its gonna be
legend-waitforit-dairy lol barney stinson FTW.
up and the frame that i assume u built urself. harvest coming soon man ill be back to check it out cuz its gonna be
legend-waitforit-dairy lol barney stinson FTW.
Mithrandir420
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Max on any circuit is 80% of its rating, not 15%.
1000 watt HPS draws 9.6 amps.
Reef, I would isolate the breakers that feed each and every outlet and switch in your house. At least in your room and immediate vicinity. Then make sure nothing else is on the circuit and try it. Try every outlet in the house. The lowest rating should be 15amp which can handle a gee easily. If it won't work on any outlet then try something else rated the same, like an electric heater. What you want to do is see if the circuit can handle the draw of the heater without tripping. If it trips it's your wiring. If not then take the ballast to another location and try it. (friends house, work, etc. just not the hydro store)
It's a weird issue, but then electricity can cause weird issues. My guess is that it's a short in your wiring somewhere. Either that or you have a REALLY old house with REALLY old wiring.
Hope it helps.
1000 watt HPS draws 9.6 amps.
Reef, I would isolate the breakers that feed each and every outlet and switch in your house. At least in your room and immediate vicinity. Then make sure nothing else is on the circuit and try it. Try every outlet in the house. The lowest rating should be 15amp which can handle a gee easily. If it won't work on any outlet then try something else rated the same, like an electric heater. What you want to do is see if the circuit can handle the draw of the heater without tripping. If it trips it's your wiring. If not then take the ballast to another location and try it. (friends house, work, etc. just not the hydro store)
It's a weird issue, but then electricity can cause weird issues. My guess is that it's a short in your wiring somewhere. Either that or you have a REALLY old house with REALLY old wiring.
Hope it helps.
DLOPEZ1420
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Wow. thats some funny shit...
ReefBongwell
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I've identified two differences so far... soil and temps... temps are constant and in the mid 70s instead of going back and forth between lower 80s and mid-upper 60s... so that's a big help, but i definitely see a big difference also in the plants that are straight 'original' super soil vs my modified formula that uses more guanos... i think it leaves too much N available in flower and the N&P don't break down as fast where the original super soil is designed to be fast release. I expect the super soil plants to run out of N a lot quicker than the plants that are in the modified formula this time the same way they stayed so green last time. The ones in the modified formula this time don't got the same pump to the bud size.
Good info on the 9amps... definitely shouldn't be a problem I know the a/c in the other room takes up at least 11 and there are like 1k+ of leds on the same circuit
Yeah I did build that frame it's amazing what you can do with some 2x4s and nails
in a few months it'll be legend-waitforit-dairy-queen I still watch HIMYM even with all the haters It was the ballast... I took it to the hydro store today and it did the exact same thing for them... took their circuit out every time no matter what they triedMax on any circuit is 80% of its rating, not 15%.
1000 watt HPS draws 9.6 amps.
Reef, I would isolate the breakers that feed each and every outlet and switch in your house. At least in your room and immediate vicinity. Then make sure nothing else is on the circuit and try it. Try every outlet in the house. The lowest rating should be 15amp which can handle a gee easily. If it won't work on any outlet then try something else rated the same, like an electric heater. What you want to do is see if the circuit can handle the draw of the heater without tripping. If it trips it's your wiring. If not then take the ballast to another location and try it. (friends house, work, etc. just not the hydro store)
It's a weird issue, but then electricity can cause weird issues. My guess is that it's a short in your wiring somewhere. Either that or you have a REALLY old house with REALLY old wiring.
Hope it helps.
The replacement I got is not as new as the other but it's the same one and it had no problems working when they plugged it into a 1k lamp... man that thing was soooo bright even with them trying to cover the bulb I can't wait As far as I could tell when it has blown there is nothing else on that circuit except one set of lights that stays turned off.What I'm curious on is if I can run the 600w and the 1KW on the same circuit/timer (I got those 2-plug digital wall timers -- they have no problem running the 600w in one plug and over 1K of LEDs off the other plug). Otherwise I gotta get a new timer too next time I go to the store
I also picked up an 8" fan in case the a/c is not able to handle keeping everything cool... though I don't have ducting for it I'll have to make a quick run to the hardware store (hopefully it'll still be open) and get some if not... the hydro store won't be open tomorrow so I figured best not to wait... if the a/c can handle it I'll return it tuesday... i'm pretty sure the a/c is going to be able to handle it though because usually i'm kinda chilly in there even if i crank the a/c up to 78 and the a/c has no problem keeping things at 72 (or less I've never tried going lower) if I want to set it to that... shit with the 600w and 1K+ of LEDs it is still running on energy saver mode no problems so I can still take it out of that as well... I'm thinking the a/c will chug through it like a boss. I'm really happy with that a/c unit so far! I still haven't even had to drain the water tank in it.
FYI it is the CO2 regulator not a/c that i took back and still had issues... I think I solved that it must have come a little bit loose on the trip home once I retightened it it was fine (the new one -- i'm not going to test the other one again until I get another tank refill). So I should be hooking that back up there tonight to help those plants cope with the 2.5K of power raining down on them!!!
I'm already having as good/better results than last time before the co2 even gets pumped in... also, stretch definitely appears to be over as those girls not getting enough light are not stretching much if at all. Of course all the stretchiest phenos are already under the 600w that hasn't had problems
Mithrandir420
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I only run a 1k and a 600 on the same circuit if it's a 20 amp. I NEVER run more than one lamp on any timer, power strip, or extension cord. I got lucky TWICE and fried heavy duty timers. I am saving for a power control box thingie form DX Hydro. I have a 50 amp AC line I am not using that I want to connect to it.
ReefBongwell
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Good to know... I'm gonna put it on a separate one for now then and get it it's own timer.
This gives me hope!
^^^ My parents are part of the 'silent generation'
This gives me hope!
^^^ My parents are part of the 'silent generation'
ReefBongwell
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It's been nice not having to move plants this time... just let'em sit where they are...
I was thinking it's nice that I can now grow as many as I was moving them twice a day and not having to move them... but if I move them, I can now yield twice what I was getting before... since a big part of ramping this up is to build funds for moving/getting set up in a non-rental situation, it seems like i may want to double up on the next run with all these new seeds... that'll allow me to have a better chance of finding my desired phenos, too... only popping 3 of each strain for now, it seems i'll run the risk of not getting any females and if I do, not possibly being a great pheno... I could go back to popping 6 of each, keeping doing 2 strains every 2 weeks, and just move them into a swapping situation when they hit flower to double my plant count and yields... talked to the parents earlier today it sounds like they are not planning on coming to visit until the holiday season, so.... next run would be the time to do it... it'd also give me the cash to upgrade the storage building to move stuff into either temporarily or permanently....
Hmmmmmmmm
I was thinking it's nice that I can now grow as many as I was moving them twice a day and not having to move them... but if I move them, I can now yield twice what I was getting before... since a big part of ramping this up is to build funds for moving/getting set up in a non-rental situation, it seems like i may want to double up on the next run with all these new seeds... that'll allow me to have a better chance of finding my desired phenos, too... only popping 3 of each strain for now, it seems i'll run the risk of not getting any females and if I do, not possibly being a great pheno... I could go back to popping 6 of each, keeping doing 2 strains every 2 weeks, and just move them into a swapping situation when they hit flower to double my plant count and yields... talked to the parents earlier today it sounds like they are not planning on coming to visit until the holiday season, so.... next run would be the time to do it... it'd also give me the cash to upgrade the storage building to move stuff into either temporarily or permanently....
Hmmmmmmmm
bigworm6969
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Yeah i knew i was explaining that shit wrong its 80% so a 20amp circuit u should only use 15amps thats 80%, n e way glad u got it fix reef, love watching u grow brother
ReefBongwell
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The 1K is up and going! I'm working on vid now... gonna head back up there shortly to see how well the a/c is handling. Still working on co2
bigworm6969
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what do u mean vid on you tube? If so imma go check it out after i get done smoking this amensia haze
ReefBongwell
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Yeah when it's done it'll be posted in here.. saving now then got to upload...
1K is working good... A/c so far is having no problems handling it! CO2 not having good luck with... still doing the same thing... i'm thinking tomorrow I'll pick up another extension cord and run it from the controller in the grow room and put the tank outside the grow room... it's still doing the same damn thing... will see tomorrow if it's maybe the humidity and airflow in the room fucking shit up (50% humidity)... it was working fine earlier today without freezing up downstairs outside the grow room once i tightened it good... tomorrow i'll put a fresh washer in and tighten it real good and run it from outside the grow room to see if that helps... i don't have a free extension cord at the moment though they're all tied up on lights
Mithrandir420
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Welcome to the big leagues, buddy.The 1K is up and going! I'm working on vid now... gonna head back up there shortly to see how well the a/c is handling. Still working on co2
Actually, welcome to light penetration. I know sixes are most efficient watt for watt, but damn, nothing beats the punch of a gee. I am hoping to pick up 2 more by summers end and be pumping 6k in flower by years end.
joe macclennan
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how many sq. feet will you be covering with the 6?Welcome to the big leagues, buddy.
Actually, welcome to light penetration. I know sixes are most efficient watt for watt, but damn, nothing beats the punch of a gee. I am hoping to pick up 2 more by summers end and be pumping 6k in flower by years end.