Tasty GM crops, or insecticides... you decide

desert dude

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If you don't like GM crops, you better develop a taste, and tolerance, for insecticides...




http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/nature/fewer-pesticides-farming-with-gmos/

Between 1996 and 2011, Bt corn reduced insecticide use in corn production by 45% worldwide (110 million pounds, or roughly the equivalent of 20,000 Olympic swimming pools). ...


"“There is not a single documented case of anyone being hurt by genetically modified food, and yet this is a bigger problem for people than pesticides, which we know have caused harm,” he says. “I just shake my head in bewilderment at the folks who take these stringent positions that biotech should be banned.”

Even some organic farmers bristle when asked about the anti-GMO movement. Under the U.S. Organic Foods Production Act, they are not allowed to grow GMOs, despite their ability to reduce pesticide applications. Organic farmers still spray their crops, just with different chemicals, such as sulfur and copper. Amy Hepworth, an organic farmer at Hepworth Farms in Milton, New York, says that they, too, can take a toll on the environment.


Hepworth would like to continuously evaluate new avenues towards sustainable agriculture as technology advances. However, her views often clash with her customers’ in the affluent Brooklyn, New York, neighborhood of Park Slope. Many of them see no benefit in GMOs’ ability to reduce pesticides because they say farmers should rely strictly on traditional farming methods.


“What people don’t understand is that without pesticides there is not enough food for the masses,” Hepworth says. “The fact is that GM is a tool that can help us use less pesticide.”

... It’s not just a problem in Indonesia, either. In parts of India, farmers spray more than 60 insecticides on their eggplant—known to locals as brinjal—during the growing season, mainly to protect the purple fruit from burrowing bugs, says Ponnuswami Balasubramanian, a plant molecular biologist at Tamil Nadu Agricultural University in Coimbatore, India. To reduce the insecticide load without losing the harvest, Balasubramanian, together with public sector researchers and a private Indian seed company, developed Bt versions of four varieties of eggplant that are popular in southern states. Monsanto was not involved, but still public outcry from GMO opponents blocked the eggplants from federal approval.


Nigerian farmers who rely on traditional farming techniques lose up to 30% of their crops.

“It was madness to stop Bt brinjal” says Kulvinder Gill, an agricultural geneticist at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, who grew up in India and was not involved with the project. “People should not even be eating this brinjal because it has so much insecticide on it,” Gill says, “Anything to reduce that would be extremely beneficial.”
 
Some among us would argue that poison is preferable. Yikes.

What would happen if I grew GM crops on land that was being used for fracking?
Hmmm.

Super tasty.
 
LOL!

I was waiting for the GM debate to hit RIU.

Have fun with this one...It's a shit storm, and Bill Gates is the main man. And you can bet your ass he believes in thinning the heard.
He is a firm believer in eugenics.

There is no way to win at this point. They are already creating "terminator" plants that terminate seeds after one harvest. Forcing farmers to return to the seed market year after year. Eventually there will be no heirloom seeds left, and the gm seeds that have been MODIFIED TO BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND LARGE AMOUNTS OF ROUNDUP, will be all that is left.

GM crops have been show to cause intestinal problems, digestive problems, and cancer. And this is just short term studies.

Pretty much all of our corn and soy at this point is gm.
They are moving to create a gm version of pretty much every crop out there. World wide.
Monsanto is even paying farmers to spray experimental cococtions of chemicals on crops.

Control the food, control the people.

Anyways, I have said my peace....have fun with your debate.


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Start saving your heirloom seeds NOW, because soon...you won't have any other option than to grow and eat poison.

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/health-risks
 
Amber, corn causes me extreme cramps. It never did that to me 30 years ago. GM feed has killed lots of livestock. The good out weighs any long term damage it can cause. We have no idea how really safe GM is. Those in power like Bill Gates are so scared, he built a seed bank fortress more heavily guarded than Fort Knox in the artic filled with as many heirlooms he could find. Just say no to GMO!
 
Amber, corn causes me extreme cramps. It never did that to me 30 years ago. GM feed has killed lots of livestock. The good out weighs any long term damage it can cause. We have no idea how really safe GM is. Those in power like Bill Gates are so scared, he built a seed bank fortress more heavily guarded than Fort Knox in the artic filled with as many heirlooms he could find. Just say no to GMO!

Because he is trying to rid the world of them. Heirlooms will only be used by higher ups. And only eaten by them as well.

Bill Gates owns a majority of the shares in Monsanto. (500,000 shares or over 23 million worth of their stock)

This is population control at it's finest.
 
The only point I was trying to make is that any food that is genetically modified is pretty much a poison and is a form of population control. They are killing us through corn, soy, and soon to be every other vegetable/fruit.

Unless we want everyone outside of higher govt. officials dying off, we may want to act.
 
The only point I was trying to make is that any food that is genetically modified is pretty much a poison and is a form of population control. They are killing us through corn, soy, and soon to be every other vegetable/fruit.

Unless we want everyone outside of higher govt. officials dying off, we may want to act.

There is not a single documented case of anyone being hurt by genetically modified food...

How do you become so delusional? What does it take to look at facts and arrive at a conclusion completely at odds with them? You should donate your brain to science, M1.
 
Last time I checked, cancer causes death.

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There is no other reason for you to come to riu and start a PRO-GMO thread unless you work for Monsanto. Or maybe you are just a super uninformed farmer that has been brainwashed? Not sure, either way there is plenty of evidence out there...want more?
 
Bill Gates owns a majority of the shares in Monsanto. (500,000 shares or over 23 million worth of their stock)

Bill Gates is not on this list.

Monsanto Company (MON)

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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]GRANT HUGH[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]380,882[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Jul 3, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]PARFET WILLIAM U[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]319,244[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Apr 26, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]BEGEMANN BRETT D[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]97,580[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Apr 8, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]FRALEY ROBERT T[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]91,212[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Apr 9, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]STEVENS ROBERT J[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]60,431[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Apr 26, 2013[/TD]
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[TH="class: yfnc_tablehead1, width: 40%, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: left"]Holder[/TH]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]FMR, LLC[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]34,024,416[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]6.38[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]3,593,999,062[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Vanguard Group, Inc. (The)[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]28,477,720[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5.34[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]3,008,101,563[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]State Street Corporation[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]23,231,808[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]4.36[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]2,453,975,879[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A.[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]15,345,916[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]2.88[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1,620,989,107[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Jennison Associates LLC[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]13,555,953[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]2.54[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1,431,915,315[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Primecap Management Company[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]12,010,767[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]2.25[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1,268,697,318[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Davis Selected Advisers, LP[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]9,200,094[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.73[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]971,805,929[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Winslow Capital Management[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]9,188,909[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.72[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]970,624,457[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Northern Trust Corporation[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]8,976,193[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.68[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]948,155,266[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1"]Bank of New York Mellon Corporation[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]7,759,245[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.46[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]819,609,049[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Fidelity Growth Company Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]7,489,978[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.40[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]753,791,385[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]May 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]7,444,254[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.40[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]786,336,550[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Vanguard/Primecap Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5,912,460[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.11[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]624,533,149[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Fidelity Contrafund Inc[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5,431,719[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]1.02[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]546,648,200[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]May 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Vanguard 500 Index Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5,094,011[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.96[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]538,080,381[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mainstay Large Cap Growth Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5,032,822[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.94[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]506,503,206[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]May 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Vanguard Institutional Index Fund-Institutional Index Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]5,036,545[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.94[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]532,010,248[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Mar 31, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]4,979,733[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.93[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]491,997,620[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Jun 30, 2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Harbor Capital Appreciation Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]4,847,738[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.91[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]478,956,514[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Jun 30, 2013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Davis New York Venture Fund[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]4,740,296[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]0.89[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: right"]506,358,418[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, align: left"]Apr 30, 2013
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=MON+Major+Holders
 
Because he is trying to rid the world of them. Heirlooms will only be used by higher ups. And only eaten by them as well.

Bill Gates owns a majority of the shares in Monsanto. (500,000 shares or over 23 million worth of their stock)

This is population control at it's finest.

Monsanto actually has over 500 million shares of stock, and 86% of those shares are held by institutions (in brokerage/retirement accounts) and mutual funds. The biggest "owners" of Monsanto are Fidelity, Vanguard, State Street, and Black Rock.
 
You do know that there are companies and corporations bidding for research and websites to be removed from the "searchable internet" right?
 
Monsanto actually has over 500 million shares of stock, and 86% of those shares are held by institutions (in brokerage/retirement accounts) and mutual funds. The biggest "owners" of Monsanto are Fidelity, Vanguard, State Street, and Black Rock.

(1)"It should come as no surprise, then, that Gates owns 500,000 shares worth 23 million US dollars (or more) of Monsanto stock. The very same company that has been caught running slave rings in Argentina in which workers were forced to work 14+ hours a day while withholding payment, has used their massive finances to fund organizations that literally fake FDA quotes to support GMOs, and of course peddling through GMOs that have been linked to numerous health concerns."





1. http://naturalsociety.com/bill-gates-dodges-questions-owns-500000-shares-of-monsanto/
 
The cock roaches are streaming out of the woodwork.

One of the funnier lines I have read in a while: "23 million dollars worth of Monsanto stock is a 'majority' of the company".

Monsanto Market Cap:53.58B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MON

Amber, you should invest in Alcoa. Maybe they will give you a discount on tin foil hats.

If your 23 million dollar holding for Bill Gates is accurate, which I highly doubt given your obvious brain injuries, then Mr. Gates owns ~0.04% of Monsanto.
 
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