Tasty GM crops, or insecticides... you decide

Wavels · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
Trouble began when a US financial website published the foundation's annual investment portfolio, which showed it had bought 500,000 Monsanto shares worth around $23m. This was a substantial increase in the last six months and while it is just small change for Bill and Melinda, it has been enough to let loose their fiercest critics.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-de...ters/2010/sep/29/gates-foundation-gm-monsanto

So you were incorrect on two points:

The Gates foundation owns the shares, not Bill Gates.

The Foundation has nowhere near a majority ownership...you stated "majority"

Inaccurate.

tokeprep · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
(1)"It should come as no surprise, then, that Gates owns 500,000 shares worth 23 million US dollars (or more) of Monsanto stock. The very same company that has been caught running slave rings in Argentina in which workers were forced to work 14+ hours a day while withholding payment, has used their massive finances to fund organizations that literally fake FDA quotes to support GMOs, and of course peddling through GMOs that have been linked to numerous health concerns."

1. http://naturalsociety.com/bill-gates-dodges-questions-owns-500000-shares-of-monsanto/

You told us Bill Gates was Monsanto's largest shareholder. In reality, assuming the 500,000 shares is correct, Gates would only own 0.09% of Monsanto--a tiny fraction of a percentage point.

tokeprep · Jul 27, 2013

Wavels said:
So you were incorrect on two points:

The Gates foundation owns the shares, not Bill Gates.

The Foundation has nowhere near a majority ownership...you stated "majority"

Inaccurate.

Gates' foundation and his personal fortune share a common money manager, but I highly doubt Gates is involved at all in the investments.

Doer · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
Last time I checked, cancer causes death.

View attachment 2752369

There is no other reason for you to come to riu and start a PRO-GMO thread unless you work for Monsanto. Or maybe you are just a super uninformed farmer that has been brainwashed? Not sure, either way there is plenty of evidence out there...want more?

Hey, we have had enough already of GM threads. Those are are cancer mice. They are supposed to grow cancer, they have been GMed to grow cancer.

See, the dreamers sell out to the idiots and that is War.

No science. There is not science and we have been over and over it.

Doer · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
You do know that there are companies and corporations bidding for research and websites to be removed from the "searchable internet" right?

Hey, I'm glad you left. Save the stink bombs for Toke and Talk.

M1dAmber · Jul 27, 2013

Doer said:
Hey, we have had enough already of GM threads. Those are are cancer mice. They are supposed to grow cancer, they have been GMed to grow cancer.

See, the dreamers sell out to the idiots and that is War.

No science. There is not science and we have been over and over it.

If I knew this thread had already popped up (multiple times even), I would have not even stopped by. This was the first one I saw,

My apologies. I really did think this was a fresh riu debate...I am not one to spam.

Doer · Jul 27, 2013

You said you left. Go read the other threads. We have been over and over, you lose.

Hash is a better topic.

Wavels · Jul 27, 2013

tokeprep said:
Gates' foundation and his personal fortune share a common money manager, but I highly doubt Gates is involved at all in the investments.

Yes I agree.
And these are two different legal entities. Bill Gates is not the beneficial owner of the Foundation.

Chronic Masterbator · Jul 27, 2013

Lots of losers on riu trying to miss guide the stoners or noobs. Even if GMO or Monsanto seeds don't cause cancer. They are still evil considering they are developing terminator seeds. That alone makes them the enemy to farmers and citizens alike.

tokeprep · Jul 27, 2013

Chronic Masterbator said:
Lots of losers on riu trying to miss guide the stoners or noobs. Even if GMO or Monsanto seeds don't cause cancer. They are still evil considering they are developing terminator seeds. That alone makes them the enemy to farmers and citizens alike.

Kill your customers, it's brilliant! How has no one ever come up with this plan before!?

Highlowazupkush · Jul 27, 2013

Yes, Monsanto (amongst others) is one fucked up company. I wonder which fucked up country they come from? It must be some REALLY BAD place.. like, some 4th world shit hole that lets the people with lots of money do anything they want.

Chronic Masterbator said:
Lots of losers on riu trying to miss guide the stoners or noobs. Even if GMO or Monsanto seeds don't cause cancer. They are still evil considering they are developing terminator seeds. That alone makes them the enemy to farmers and citizens alike.

Lots of shit that Monsanto has done is evil. Fuck Monsanto.

USA is full of evil, because people there allow it to thrive.

Wavels · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
If I knew this thread had already popped up (multiple times even), I would have not even stopped by. This was the first one I saw,

My apologies. I really did think this was a fresh riu debate...I am not one to spam.

I have been posting in spurts for a long time now here at RIU's political hothouse. I like to smoke fine buds and ruminate...in a cozy haze. Anyway my point is that the forum has become more rancorous than I remember...and sometimes it seems like swimming upstream to participate...vitriolic venom dominates; to the detriment of this forum IMHO.

I want to thank you for your participation and civility, you are a class act. :bigjoint:

M1dAmber · Jul 27, 2013

Wavels said:
I have been posting in spurts for a long time now here at RIU's political hothouse. I like to smoke fine buds and ruminate...in a cozy haze. Anyway my point is that the forum has become more rancorous than I remember...and sometimes it seems like swimming upstream to participate...vitriolic venom dominates; to the detriment of this forum IMHO.

I want to thank you for your participation and civility, you are a class act.

Thank you, Wavels.

I am not one to "stir the pot" or call names. I do, however, enjoy a lively debate.

Chronic Masterbator · Jul 27, 2013

tokeprep said:
Kill your customers, it's brilliant! How has no one ever come up with this plan before!?

Not to only kill but monopolize on food prices. Like Amber said>>> control the food control the people.

UncleBuck · Jul 27, 2013

tokeprep said:
Kill your customers, it's brilliant! How has no one ever come up with this plan before!?

UncleBuck · Jul 27, 2013

Canna Sylvan said:
We have no idea how really safe GM is.

that's all there is to say.

that established, we can then laugh at desert dud as he pointlessly spams his love for monsanto and GMO, which does not border on religious, but actually is religious and cultish.

some people are so dumb that they believe it's a good idea to put all their eggs in one basket without checking the basket for holes first.

NoDrama · Jul 27, 2013

M1dAmber said:
Because he is trying to rid the world of them. Heirlooms will only be used by higher ups. And only eaten by them as well.

Bill Gates owns a majority of the shares in Monsanto. (500,000 shares or over 23 million worth of their stock)

This is population control at it's finest.

Hmmm, not even listed anywhere on there as a holder of the stock. Fidelity management and Research is the largest holder with 34 MILLION shares. Hugh Grant is the largest single holder with 380,000 shares. No mention of bill gates. Not sure what moniker the foundation goes under, but I have missed things before. Most likely it was just a smart financial move considering its up 16% over the last year.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=MON+Major+Holders

Canna Sylvan · Jul 27, 2013

tokeprep said:
Kill your customers, it's brilliant! How has no one ever come up with this plan before!?

Because that's their long term goal. Have your customers kill themselves on your product. Why does Bill Gates own a doomsday seed bank just filled with only heirloom seeds, and no GMO seeds. If those GMO are so great and saving the world, why doesn't he save the perfect GMO seeds in case of a doomsday event? Possibly the GMO are the doomsday event?

Canna Sylvan · Jul 27, 2013

UncleBuck said:
that's all there is to say.

that established, we can then laugh at desert dud as he pointlessly spams his love for monsanto and GMO, which does not border on religious, but actually is religious and cultish.

some people are so dumb that they believe it's a good idea to put all their eggs in one basket without checking the basket for holes first.

I think that's one of the only things we agree upon, but hey it's a start, right?

M1dAmber · Jul 27, 2013

Eugenics. Bill Gates firmly believes in it.

Eugenics: It is a social philosophy advocating the improvement of human hereditary traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of more desired people and traits, and reduced reproduction of less desired people and traits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Is it a coincidence that gm soy plants are sterilizing hamsters in lab studies? My guess is no.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html

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