Aero clone machine, clones not looking to hot :( any help? *pic*

budtoker0987

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That cuttining in the top pic is the worst looking one. I was trying to get a shot of the "wetness" of the RW there..
 

Alaric

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That cuttining in the top pic is the worst looking one. I was trying to get a shot of the "wetness" of the RW there..
Congratulations------- you are now a contributor to the "accidental experiment club". Please keep us posted on the outcome of your cuttings------it's just as important to discover what NOT to do versus what to do.

If it is true that----- a happy cutting is an unrooted cutting. Then you might try adjusting your spray cycle to just keep the rw slightly moist (if it's too late to remove the rw). I've never used rw in production so I'm out of my element here.

If aero cloning doesn't work out for you-----then, if asked, I can give u a way that has always been very reliable for me (takes a little more effort). I also suggest skepticism about anyone claiming 100% success rate in a production setting----no matter the method used.

A~~~
 

budtoker0987

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Congratulations------- you are now a contributor to the "accidental experiment club". Please keep us posted on the outcome of your cuttings------it's just as important to discover what NOT to do versus what to do.

If it is true that----- a happy cutting is an unrooted cutting. Then you might try adjusting your spray cycle to just keep the rw slightly moist (if it's too late to remove the rw). I've never used rw in production so I'm out of my element here.

If aero cloning doesn't work out for you-----then, if asked, I can give u a way that has always been very reliable for me (takes a little more effort). I also suggest skepticism about anyone claiming 100% success rate in a production setting----no matter the method used.

A~~~
Ya i will keep ya posted for sure. Thats what im worried about if i DID take them out of the RW what if they DO have SOME roots started in there an i just rip them off... :( When I first posted this they were accidentally being sprayed for 15 mins 4 times a day and they were saoked. Now its 4 mins 4 times a day, and all i have is that pic to go by. I need to go see them tonight possibly and actually feel how heavey they are.

Ya man, no more RW for me... unless its a seed
 

superstoner1

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Congratulations------- you are now a contributor to the "accidental experiment club". Please keep us posted on the outcome of your cuttings------it's just as important to discover what NOT to do versus what to do.

If it is true that----- a happy cutting is an unrooted cutting. Then you might try adjusting your spray
Congratulations------- you are now a contributor to the "accidental experiment club". Please keep us posted on the outcome of your cuttings------it's just as important to discover what NOT to do versus what to do.

If it is true that----- a happy cutting is an unrooted cutting. Then you might try adjusting your spray cycle to just keep the rw slightly moist (if it's too late to remove the rw). I've never used rw in production so I'm out of my element here.


If aero cloning doesn't work out for you-----then, if asked, I can give u a way that has always been very reliable for me (takes a little more effort). I also suggest skepticism about anyone claiming 100% success rate in a production setting----no matter the method used.


A~~~
Ok , how about 99.999% success rate? Because i can say that over the last few years and thousands of cuttings in my homemade aero cloners i have lost 2. And those were my fault from badly directed sprayers. And that is in a production setting with harvest every 3 weeks. Cloning is the easiest part of growing, just cut it and stick it.
 

superstoner1

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Ya i will keep ya posted for sure. Thats what im worried about if i DID take them out of the RW what if they DO have SOME roots started in there an i just rip them off... :( When I first posted this they were accidentally being sprayed for 15 mins 4 times a day and they were saoked. Now its 4 mins 4 times a day, and all i have is that pic to go by. I need to go see them tonight possibly and actually feel how heavey they are.

Ya man, no more RW for me... unless its a seed
Dont even use it for that. The little expanding pucks are much more forgiving and can easily be washed away for transfer to hydro.
 
You need a dome, if not get two liter bottles or something cut the tops off and set them over each lady. spray some water inside each and you'll get the humidity you're looking for.
 

budtoker0987

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You need a dome, if not get two liter bottles or something cut the tops off and set them over each lady. spray some water inside each and you'll get the humidity you're looking for.
I have wondered how crucial that is. I do have the humidifier cranked so its stays about 80-85%.. I know the dome gets you closer to like 95%

*Super, in your clone machine, do you throw a dome over them? or how do you get the humidity you want?*

Thnks dudes
 

Alaric

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Ok , how about 99.999% success rate? Because i can say that over the last few years and thousands of cuttings in my homemade aero cloners i have lost 2. And those were my fault from badly directed sprayers. And that is in a production setting with harvest every 3 weeks. Cloning is the easiest part of growing, just cut it and stick it.

No disrespect intended.

I have over 15 years of weed cultivation experience ( yea old geezer here) and I have always had to keep my rh very high----especially during the first few days.

I don't understand how u get away without one------would you mind helping me discover what the difference is or point me to a previous thread.

Thanks in advance,

A~~~
 
I have over 15 years of weed cultivation experience ( yea old geezer here) and I have always had to keep my rh very high----especially during the first few days.

I don't understand how u get away without one------would you mind helping me discover what the difference is or point me to a previous thread.

Thanks in advance,

A~~~
i have had a lot of dead babies in the past, (more than caused by American troops in Vietnam) but all fucked up joking aside I never got real, constant success until I'd leave my dome on for first days with at least 85%RH..

if you walk into that room and don't start sweating almost instantly, probably an indication your humidity is too low.

Its just very difficult to keep a whole room humid as opposed to a shoe box, feel me??
 

budtoker0987

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Im smellin what ur steppin in holmes :) , deff makes sense. I'll have to gt some 2 litre bottle s then or a dome big enuf
 

superstoner1

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I have wondered how crucial that is. I do have the humidifier cranked so its stays about 80-85%.. I know the dome gets you closer to like 95%

*Super, in your clone machine, do you throw a dome over them? or how do you get the humidity you want?*

Thnks dudes
I have never used a dome. hydro cloners dont need it. over the last few years doing hydro only i have had over 60 different strains, not to mention the different phenos of different strains, and never had one that took longer than 12 days to root. Plain tap water( no need to ph) in the cloner, take a cutting and put it straight into collar and netpot, then into cloner. Timer set for 80sec on, 8min off. Leave it alone for 8-10 days and boom, roots.
 

superstoner1

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What are those? could you give me a link to see? Thnaks man!
I think they are called jiffy pucks an u can buy them anywhere, walmart, lowes, etc. They are compressed pucks that expand when soaked and have a fine netting around them to retain shape. I start seeds in them for first week of so them pull netting off and place in bowl of water. Agitate water with the finger and the puck will disentegrate, then lift out seedling and place in collar and netpot.
 
I have never used a dome. hydro cloners dont need it. over the last few years doing hydro only i have had over 60 different strains, not to mention the different phenos of different strains, and never had one that took longer than 12 days to root. Plain tap water( no need to ph) in the cloner, take a cutting and put it straight into collar and netpot, then into cloner. Timer set for 80sec on, 8min off. Leave it alone for 8-10 days and boom, roots.
Very interesting, do you know what the humidity levels are at? What kind of room is it it? Is it just the cloner in there or is it with something else? What kind of light is it under? Any magic spells used during the process??
 

superstoner1

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Ok , how about 99.999% success rate? Because i can say that over the last few years and thousands of cuttings in my homemade aero cloners i have lost 2. And those were my fault from badly directed sprayers. And that is in a production setting with harvest every 3 weeks. Clo
Ok , how about 99.999% success rate? Because i can say that over the last few years and thousands of cuttings in my homemade aero cloners i have lost 2. And those were my fault from badly directed sprayers. And that is in a production setting with harvest every 3 weeks. Cloning is the easiest part of growing, just cut it and stick it.

No disrespect intended.


I have over 15 years of weed cultivation experience ( yea old geezer here) and I have always had to keep my rh very high----especially during the first few days.


I don't understand how u get away without one------would you mind helping me discover what the difference is or point me to a previous thread.


Thanks in advance,


A~~~
None taken, just pointing out that it can be, and is, done and by lots growers. I have made at least 6 different aero cloners from 6-73 sites and never used a dome. Check my thread, my 3 stages of flower. And also stinkbuds thread, harvest a pound every three weeks.
 

budtoker0987

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I have never used a dome. hydro cloners dont need it. over the last few years doing hydro only i have had over 60 different strains, not to mention the different phenos of different strains, and never had one that took longer than 12 days to root. Plain tap water( no need to ph) in the cloner, take a cutting and put it straight into collar and netpot, then into cloner. Timer set for 80sec on, 8min off. Leave it alone for 8-10 days and boom, roots.
What kind of timer you using for that? The ones i have either do 15 min increments or my digital one i can set 9 separate on and off timers (9 ons, 9 offs) that those wont do what your saying i think..
 

superstoner1

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Very interesting, do you know what the humidity levels are at? What kind of room is it it? Is it just the cloner in there or is it with something else? What kind of light is it under? Any magic spells used during the process??
My cloner sits on floor under my veg units and only gets residual light from veg or sometimes i turn on a 26w cfl over them. Cuttings need very little light to root. The humidity runs around 50% as my flower and veg rooms are connected using ducts and fans for temp control. Olddude has accused many times over the years of having magic water. Lol.
 

superstoner1

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What kind of timer you using for that? The ones i have either do 15 min increments or my digital one i can set 9 separate on and off timers (9 ons, 9 offs) that those wont do what your saying i think..
Its called a recycle timer. I run 6 pumps all set to it.
 
My cloner sits on floor under my veg units and only gets residual light from veg or sometimes i turn on a 26w cfl over them. Cuttings need very little light to root. The humidity runs around 50% as my flower and veg rooms are connected using ducts and fans for temp control. Olddude has accused many times over the years of having magic water. Lol.
I KNEW IT! haha so IYO what would you say are the main constituent(s) needed for clones to root? Constant aeration and exposure to quality h20? IF you dont mind the inquisition that is :mrgreen:
 

superstoner1

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I KNEW IT! haha so IYO what would you say are the main constituent(s) needed for clones to root? Constant aeration and exposure to quality h20? IF you dont mind the inquisition that is :mrgreen:
Not sure on that. I dont use an air pump and i use city tap water. Biggest thing is K.I.S.S. No need for fancy angle cuts or skinning the stem, or gels or root compounds. I seriously dont even bother with them after i take them until im ready for them. I can take 20 cuttings and be done in a matter of minutes. it takes me longer just to make sure i have kept all strains going perpetual.thank goodness for colored collars.
 
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