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[ilikecheetoes]

oooh ooh I just had a great idea. We should have a retard pool. anybody making min wage has manadtory SSI and Medicare and obamacare taken from their paychecks.
Or you can also have the option to join the retard pool. You agree that since you are so worthless as a person and make minimum wage the government will have to take care of you in the future. So you have to pay for it.
That will kick people in the ass to actually perform and get out of the min wage rut.

I wouldnt be horribly opposed to an SSI replacement where I can manage and have access to my own money with some oversite. ie the government has to see money going into a 401k or IRA or at tax time you get dinged for not saving.

see Im giving a hand up.

 

[schuylaar]

insurance companies are scumbags. I dont dispute that. But the free market would lower prices. Hell Ill start an insurance company that only does catastraphic coverage and only for people 16-35. oh wait im not allowed to.

so wait are you saying there is price fixing and colusion in the insurance industry? Hell there should be a law against that.

um, big time..unfortunately, those on the right have been so blinded by their hatred to understand exactly what we have here..I give it 2 years and they'll be screaming if you suggest perhaps that they'd like to un-enroll..

 

[schuylaar]

Mandatory government programs? Nope. People are better off when they make their own choices and others don't use force against them. Why do you like the use of force against people that just want to be left alone? Who owns you?

this is not socialized medicine..we have mandatory insurance programs such as car, homeowners, flood etc; you do have choices..you toddle over to your computer october 1st, locate your states exchange online and voila! you choose your coverage and if you'd like to have typical man's insurance (only believes in health care when an arm is cut off) then the news is good! because typical pool (employer sponsorship) health with that kind of coverage runs you about 150$ monthly so now you will pay 75$ win/win

 

[ilikecheetoes]

yea thats why i want it stopped now. The loudest of the tea partiers are gladly spending their SSI checks every month.
Once you give away free shit you can never take it back. stop the train now.

unfortunatly im not very pationate about it. we lost this and most of the battles and the war will be lost by 2020. you guys won, so kudos to you. Im not having kids so Ill just ride this bitch till the wheels fall off but for those of you that do to bad. And if you are considering having kids you are an eveil fuck to knowingly bring a life into the shitstorm heading our way.

 

[schuylaar]

There will be no SS when I or you retire. Only those already on it will get it or should I say get to keep it.

no, alas, retirement for us will be extended to age 72 before we can collect..is my prediction sorry to say..

 

[Rob Roy]

this is not socialized medicine..we have mandatory insurance programs such as car, homeowners, flood etc; you do have choices..you toddle over to your computer october 1st, locate your states exchange online and voila! you choose your coverage and if you'd like to have typical man's insurance (only believes in health care when an arm is cut off) then the news is good! because typical pool (employer sponsorship) health with that kind of coverage runs you about 150$ monthly so now you will pay 75$ win/win

There is no choice, if the option of not participating doesn't exist. I don't care how much or how little something costs, that's irrelevant.

So, who owns you?

 

[schuylaar]

If it works why then did my aunt who lives in London, Ont have to wait 6 months for a CT scan after she fell?

canadian model is not ours and i cannot speak about their system..

 

[ilikecheetoes]

no, alas, retirement for us will be extended to age 72 before we can collect..is my prediction sorry to say..

good why shouldnt it be?
SSI started people only lived under 70 years for the most part so the governemnt was only on the hook for a couple years. Now we have people retired nearly as long as they were working. Numbers dont add up. maybe in liberal math but here in the real world its a ponzi scheme..

 

[schuylaar]

There is no choice, if the option of not participating doesn't exist. I don't care how much or how little something costs, that's irrelevant.

So, who owns you?

being part of a large pool has actually been proven to reduce costs..

EDIT: when people are able to access care for preventative..teeth cleanings, physicals, weight management the general population as a whole is healthier often times because conditions are caught earlier..proactive medicine.

 

[Rob Roy]

being part of a large pool has actually been proven to reduce costs..

Owning slaves is a remarkable way to reduce labor costs....what's your point?

Who owns you? Why do you think others can make anything "mandatory" ?

 

[echelon1k1]

If it works why then did my aunt who lives in London, Ont have to wait 6 months for a CT scan after she fell?

Was it a life threatening injury?

 

[ilikecheetoes]

lol how do you know if you cant get the ct scan?

 

[schuylaar]

Bingo, give that person a prize. That'll be us in a few years.

WW in 2016, we will have to re-visit this subject

 

[schuylaar]

Was it a life threatening injury?

yeah, eche so tell us what you think of your medical system in the UK and how much do you pay for it?

 

[echelon1k1]

lol how do you know if you cant get the ct scan?

She said she fell... many different purposes out there for ct scanning tech

 

[Rob Roy]

being part of a large pool has actually been proven to reduce costs..

EDIT: when people are able to access care for preventative..teeth cleanings, physicals, weight management the general population as a whole is healthier often times because conditions are caught earlier..proactive medicine.

I smell fish. Do you smell fish? hmmm...red herring?

 

[ilikecheetoes]

my mom did her dental residency at the royal hospital in london in about 1973.

The dentist would take the cotton balls they used to hold peoples cheeks back and put them on one of those dental trays to dry out after they were used so they could be reused.

thats what rationing gets you. insurance companies dont do that. yet...

 

[echelon1k1]

yeah, eche so tell us what you think of your medical system in the UK and how much do you pay for it?

I don't know about the UKs medical system but here in AUSTRALIA I don't pay a thing $0- apart from my income and use taxes just like everybody else. Anyone can also get private health insurance but it you're a high income earner and don't have it, instead relying on the public system and you'll get slogged at tax time...

 

[ilikecheetoes]

wait so high wage earneers have to pay into the system but are dinged if they actually use it? yea fucking rich people. getem.

 

[Moldy]

insurance companies are scumbags. I dont dispute that. But the free market would lower prices. Hell Ill start an insurance company that only does catastraphic coverage and only for people 16-35. oh wait im not allowed to.

so wait are you saying there is price fixing and colusion in the insurance industry? Hell there should be a law against that.

Yep! It isn't Obama Care but the insurance companies. You get sick, they get 30% off the fucking top. CEO's are making millions and are active giving hand jobs to Obama and others. Fucking game is rigged, we're fucked. Glad I'll be dying in a decade or so.

I see an ad for AARP health care options and I want to puke. God damned insurance company IS AARP sucking in old people and selling them exclusive AARP insurance. AARP is anti weed too, even for old fuckers so you know they're just an insurance company with a nice name that's in bed with the 1%.