Help now~~germination rate like 10%

[Uncle Ben]

disagree with UB and you're a gay nazi now?

90% of UB's supporters can barely spell the half baked responses they concoct. Fucking brainless morons who are looking for the lazy way to grow. Can't be bothered to germ in sterile paper towels at the correct temp and gently place in medium? Shove it in soil! It's best don't ya know! Can't be bothered to monitor and assess plants development and needs? Get a big tub and mix everything you need in at once before the seeds arive! Don't want to prune? Don't! It pisses the plant off! Don't want to flush? Fuck it. 99% of people cant taste it! Anyone notice a theme from the old Uncle? His patronising, all knowing tone is a bluff for the fact that he takes the easy way out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it doesn't work well for him and others..... I'm saying it's not the only way and in amongst the wise old sages(that he doesn't own and borders on pirating due to the glory he basks in as a result of repeating them) is a lot of made up bullshit like "4 inches AT LEAST" and "Pro's do it like this......". Last week I was stood in a multi award winning, commercial, food producing greenhouse the size of several football fields. They were not germinating seeds like UB says........ Why? Because he made that bit up! The pros use machines and WHEN/IF they do do it by hand they sprout seeds en masse in a commercial scale seed sprouter and then plant. That's IF they use soil. Fruiting plants like ours are grown on a commercial scale, almost exclusively, in hydro....... Huge vats of the elements that compose nutrients being drip fed by computers directly into the water lines to specific areas of the greenhouses........ In equally significant ways, the organic soil greenhouses I have visited use methods that differ vastly from the Uncle's. As I asked before? What pros UB? Let us see them.

So when the trusted old Uncle reposts his crock of shit germing advice saying, all arrogant and condescending-like "for the hundredth fucking time......" you can read "I am repeating a lie for the hundredth fucking time". The Uncle is bringing nothing new in the things he says which are true and good...... the rest..... well..... people have been growing plants for years and years.......

There are plenty of ways to grow weed, germ seeds and live your life. Anyone of them could be the best for you? Who knows? Only you can tell! Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Heck, no doubt I'm wrong about plenty of shit! You probably are too! But Uncle Ben is right all the time! Likely story....... Got anymore Uncle?

Your angry, childish rants suggests a young man with a very low sense of self esteem.

 

[topfuel29]

Are these seeds looking good? I tried germinating like 80 of them and got TWO to work out of ALL of them. I hate the paper towel method it sucks. I put a paper towel I wet it I put the seeds then another paper towel and wet and cover FAIL. Should I try the cup of water method? Let them sink in there until the root comes out?

You don't want the seeds to sprout under water. just until the seed sink 12-24hrs.
You don't want to touch your seeds with your fingers. You have salts on your skin that can be transmitted to the seed.
Rooting/cloning solutions are a good idea. You can use them for cloning or germination.
Where you have your seeds stored is important to.

IMO-Use a tweezers, and sow to soil. 1/8-1/4" deep. Keep the soil moist all the time, never wet or dry soil. Put a light over the container.

Good Luck Man.

 

[jumpy0ne]

Your angry, childish rants suggests a young man with a very low sense of self esteem.

Your inability/unwillingness to address the points within........ Caught lying and making up stats...... Call me angry and childish. It's not actually true but it still beats being a smug, conceited, old liar!

 

[indikat]

Your inability/unwillingness to address the points within........ Caught lying and making up stats...... Call me angry and childish. It's not actually true but it still beats being a smug, conceited, old liar!

are you are being a twat ?, just popped over to see more of this fascinating psychodrama ....please don't mind me and continue....

 

[BarnBuster]

I don't suppose saying "to each his own" would shut down this thread would it?

 

[jumpy0ne]

are you are being a twat ?, just popped over to see more of this fascinating psychodrama ....please don't mind me and continue....

You do know that TRYING TO SOUND CLEVER and BEING CLEVER are different things yeah? Idiots using long words in their short sentences can get all mixed up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychodrama lulz Good try. Good try.

I remember as a kid at a party with adults I was talking about changing my name. In the UK(where I was living at the time) you change your name by "deed poll". I told the table of grown-ups I intended to change my name by "Interpol". I remember feeling small and of inadequate intellect as they chuckled at my error. You have my sympathies indikat.

 

[Dboi87]

Well... I would just like to say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with capitalism. Aside from that I have never heard UB preach on commercial mass produced plants which I think would obviously be automated if not already automated. He has only ever taught growers about how to grow healthy plants and in doing so I have yet to find a flaw in his theory. I would also agree that there are absolutely not nursery owners or professional botanists or horticulturalist gerninating their plants in paper towels. Maybe they don't just place their seeds in soil but they damn sure don't use Bounty lol. I can understand your views on different strokes for different folks but there are definitely more risks to rewards from germing in paper. I'm sure you have got it down so that it works the majority of the time but that doesn't make it any less risky. Jacky chan makes many ridiculously dangerous actions seem like child's play. Stupid comparison I know but you get the pic

 

[Dboi87]

I remember hearing my dad and uncles talking about masturbation. I asked my mom later that week what "mega basing" was

 

[Cobnobuler]

If we put the banter aside for a minute and re-examine the OP's original statement. I say you can get a better germ rate by dropping them in a puddle of dog piss. Point being, he probably has a problem in the viability of the seeds themselves. In other words, they're just no damn good. Thats probably what his problem is.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Point being, he probably has a problem in the viability of the seeds themselves. In other words, they're just no damn good. Thats probably what his problem is.

Exactly, and a point I addressed in my archive including giving you guys a way to tell whether they're good (have an embryo and will sink when soaked) or contain nothing more than a pocket of air.

UB

 

[Uncle Ben]

Nah, nothing complicated about dropping them on a wet paper towel and letting them pop. If that isn't working, the seeds are too old or something else is wrong. Like I said, I've never had nothing but close 100% success rate

Amigo, please go back and read the first paragraph of my archive. Yes, you can germinate a seed or in more technical terms "bring a dormant baby out of dormancy" using a damp paper towel. That's a no brainer but that's not the issue, at least not for me. It's what comes after that seedcoat splits and the radicle starts growing that's the issue. Possible mechanical damage from you handling it and the fact that it is now consuming stored food reserves to do its thing is the issue. You fracture that radicle and your fave is toast. If you put the seed in soil (or any decent medium) from the get-go where mother nature intended it to be then it takes off and keeps right on going like this --> https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html

Which leads me to another (basic) gardening point - you do not want to slow down, stunt that plant, if you can help it. Once it germinates it should keep on keeping on until harvest. Ever had a pepper plant get stunted due to some kind of stress? It usually stunts it which compromises production. IOW, it never fully recovers. Uhhhhhhh wait a minute, those who have grown a pepper plant please raise their hand. Hmmmmmmm, that's what I thought.

I think some of you guys require the visual affirmation of watching something happening.

Patience,
UB

 

[tusseltussel]

Amigo, please go back and read the first paragraph of my archive. Yes, you can germinate a seed or in more technical terms "bring a dormant baby out of dormancy" using a damp paper towel. That's a no brainer but that's not the issue, at least not for me. It's what comes after that seedcoat splits and the radicle starts growing that's the issue. Possible mechanical damage from you handling it and the fact that it is now consuming stored food reserves to do its thing is the issue. You fracture that radicle and your fave is toast. If you put the seed in soil (or any decent medium) from the get-go where mother nature intended it to be then it takes off and keeps right on going like this --> https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html pi

Which leads me to another (basic) gardening point - you do not want to slow down, stunt that plant, if you can help it. Once it germinates it should keep on keeping on until harvest. Ever had a pepper plant get stunted due to some kind of stress? It usually stunts it which compromises production. IOW, it never fully recovers. Uhhhhhhh wait a minute, those who have grown a pepper plant please raise their hand. mmmmmmm, that's what I thought.

I think some of you guys require the visual affirmation of watching something happening.

Patience,
UB

oh, oh , I have 500 pepper plants, 600 tomato plants 250 eggplants 600 squash plants over varying varieties planted successively and plenty more all started from seed. Actually we have 55 varieties of vegetable

 

[Uncle Ben]

oh, oh , I have 500 pepper plants, 600 tomato plants 250 eggplants 600 squash plants over varying varieties planted successively and plenty more all started from seed. Actually we have 55 varieties of vegetable

And the key to your success is a humidity dome, right? Just teasing.....

Keep talking, I'm interested. Don't know if you're in the states but here's a GREAT source for seeds. Catalog is a must have. I just sowed some Dutch bred, hand pollinated seeds for my winter greenhouse tomatoes. Planted Trust and Abramson. http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-5780-trust-f1.aspx

 

[tusseltussel]

And the key to your success is a humidity dome, right? Just teasing.....

Keep talking, I'm interested. Don't know if you're in the states but here's a GREAT source for seeds. Catalog is a must have. I just sowed some Dutch bred, hand pollinated seeds for my winter greenhouse tomatoes. Planted Trust and Abramson. http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-5780-trust-f1.aspx

I get most of my seed from johnnys and gnu. I run a 5 acre organic farm... No dome on those but they are in a greenhouse that has a higher humidity kinda like a giant dome... I put a little more care and attention in to my indoor plants.
ALSO have a 30x96 high tunnel I operate during winter

 

[Uncle Ben]

I get most of my seed from johnnys and gnu. I run a 5 acre organic farm... No dome on those but they are in a greenhouse that has a higher humidity kinda like a giant dome... I put a little more care and attention in to my indoor plants.
ALSO have a 30x96 high tunnel I operate during winter

Nice! 5 acres, that's a lot to take care of. Is that your primary source of income? Just curious, as it's tough to make a living that way unless you have cheap labor and a good market that pays high dollar. Of course with the organic marketing thing going on, you can sucker your customers and charge 3 times more, as long as it has the buzzwords "organic and natural" attached.

I grow tropical fruits in a greenhouse, citrus and avocado which I grafted to rootstock that I started from scratch. A dwarf mango is going in next.

 

[tusseltussel]

Nice! 5 acres, that's a lot to take care of. Is that your primary source of income? Just curious, as it's tough to make a living that way unless you have cheap labor and a good market that pays high dollar. Of course with the organic marketing thing going on, you can sucker your customers and charge 3 times more, as long as it has the buzzwords "organic and natural" attached.

I grow tropical fruits in a greenhouse, citrus and avocado which I grafted to rootstock that I started from scratch. A dwarf mango is going in next.

I am pretty little in the middle of 5 acres. I own 28 that I have to take care of. MY wife works off farm

 

[canefan]

I've got my veggies going along with my fruit trees

 

[Uncle Ben]

I've got my veggies going along with my fruit trees

Good for you! I've got what you've got going on plus berries, wine grapes (that I sell), pecans, pomegranates, olive, and much more. Bit off more than I can chew and am now a slave to my plants.

 

[bullwinkle60]

I moisten a paper towel, put the seeds in the middle of the towel, fold it in half ,put the folded towel in a ziploc baggie then put the baggie in a dark warm place (my top dresser drawer) and wait for 40 hours. Hasn't failed once and I've been doing it this way since I've been growing which is over 3 years.

 

[Jimdamick]

I use Jiffy pellets for soil and Rockwool cubes prepped to 5.4 ph for hydro. Don't make either too wet, just damp. Over watering and drowning the seed is a major cause of failure.