whats coming for michigan...with local help-

buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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this is colorado now but it is a good measure of what to expect since the same people are working here to bring this online--

The document clarifies that anyone "engaged in the business of" medical marijuana -- and that includes anyone giving it away -- has to be licensed, or they are illegal. I guess they hadn't clarified that before?

(BB--"you will see more of this here as they label 'caregiving' a home based business")


(theres that 'steakholders' --word-- again)

Written comments from stakeholders are also being accepted

"Not only does this approach allow us to ensure that stakeholder input plays an integral role in the formulation of these rules, it allows us to maintain good working relationships with industry members, fellow regulatory and law enforcement agencies and the public we are here to protect," Barbara Brohl, Executive Director of the Department of Revenue, said in a prepared statement. "By keeping the conversation open and inclusive the MED can stay abreast of safety concerns, industry trends or enforcement issues and work with our stakeholders to resolve problems before they arise. This will allow us to provide a proactive, well-reasoned approach to regulation of Colorado's Marijuana Industries -- a foundation we will continue to build on as we move forward and formulate rules in the future."

This also ""isn't"" the>>> end of the >>rulemaking for the >newly-created...

>Marijuana Enforcement Division (previously the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division).[ATF--M]

Up next will be the topics of production limits and testing mandates, as well as more details on inventory tracking.

The rules also discuss the "seed to sale" system, which uses RFID technology to track

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/08/marijuana_recreational_medical_draft_rules.php


be sure to look at the attached pdf with ALL the rules.....quite lengthy
 
GregS

GregS

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I wanna grow it between the squash and the melons. Fuck these guys. Nuthin' wrong with my corn and tomatoes.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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Did everyone honestly think that if this medicine were ever decriminalized or made completely legal that governmental thieves and their partners weren't going to step in and take what they want?

Some will tell me I'm wrong, history will prove me right.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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I'm torn for a couple of reasons.
One from a regulatory standpoint, I don't think cannabis should be treated any differently than alcohol as far ad maintaining safety for public sale, including testing products, preventing sales to minors and the like.

Yet if an individual can't grow their own cannabis as a home beer enthusiast can, that will be not only ignored by many but difficult to enforce.

If people who wish to get in on this from a commercial standpoint think they can avoid some regulations and taxes they have another thing coming. This isn't the old skool days of high prices and illegality. If ya wanna play you will have to pay, if you don't, someone else will. This is simply the reality. Just as any other legitimate business and marketplace.

As long as I can grow ganja for personal use as a home brewer can manufacture a legal intoxicant, I am happy. Bigger goals than just growing cannabis.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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He will have nothing politically to lose at that point, but as I said he said the same phase about same sex marriage. Thing is all it takes is an executive orderand that can be done during his lame duck.

Timea are a changing. Maybe mmm ot as quickly as we would all like but it certainly is a coming.
 
TheMan13

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The flip last fall by this administration on same sex marriage was clearly and unquestionably payed for as a majority of Obama's billion dollar campaign bundlers were gay activists. If those bundlers happened to be MJ activists, rightful change would have been just as expedited on the MJ front. That said, this is a good example of pay for play politics that simply maintains the status quo corruption within DC and which is destroying this country. Making it to the front of the political power line holding the most cash is neither a solution or hopeful IMO.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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The war on drugs is a multi-billion dollar business, regardless of who is in office it will continue until our government is brought down.

Yea, that means your political side is wrong. Left or right there both in it for the money and control of people. So if your liberal you're wrong, if you're republican you're wrong.

I cringe when I see people on here constantly drop the "Republicans are responsible for this" line. Wake up, united we stand and divided we fall...remember?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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CashCrops said:
The war on drugs is a multi-billion dollar business, regardless of who is in office it will continue until our government is brought down.

Yea, that means your political side is wrong. Left or right there both in it for the money and control of people. So if your liberal you're wrong, if you're republican you're wrong.

I cringe when I see people on here constantly drop the "Republicans are responsible for this" line. Wake up, united we stand and divided we fall...remember?
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100% agreed. Both sides shoulder the blame. This has been going on for far too long. Republicans like to romanticize about Reagan, and Democrats do the same with Clinton, but they were no better than Bush jr and Obama when it comes to this. We just weren't as clued in back then.

I honestly think a President would be assassinated within a year of taking office if he actually did what was right and worked for the people.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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Unfortunately many people seem to believe that politicians are either saviors or the cause of the problem. As I know several politicians, have worked on many campaigns and have them in my phonebook on both sides, these people are doing a job. It isn't a simple as making every topic of interest into a black or white issue, but more nuanced.

Granted I'd argue one side has a worse track record than another. I do agree money plays an extremely inappropriate role in our political system.

By the way, many democratic party leaders in our state don't give a shit about cannabis and believe it should be legal.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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I tend to agree more with the positions that Democrats take on issues, but it's usually just lip service.

The bottom line is that the vast majority of politicians have their palms greased by corporate interests and end up doing their bidding instead of working on behalf of their constituents. Take any issue, and just follow the money. It's sickening
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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I agree with your assessment on lip service as its something that drives me nuts.

What really needs to happen is for us medical users, stoners and weekend tokers need to be out with our family and friends. Most of the problems come from the uneducated populace and the ignorant "think of the ( stupid fucking) children" crowd. These are a vocal minority but one of which that consistently votes.

No politician wants to be viewed as soft on drugs/crime.

I've been doing my part. My family and friends know but obviously I need some anonymity due to the career choice I'm making as do many of us.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Most people I know support marijuana legalization, or just don't give a shit one way or another. For the first time in our country a majority of Americans now support full legalization. People aren't the problem anymore, imo. It's the politicians that have their hands in the pharmaceutical cookie jar that are standing in the way.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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People are apathetic when it comes to most issues. A relatively small percentage of Americans use marijuana. You and I may cast a vote based upon a candidates view on pot, but most people don't care enough about the issue to consider it a deal breaker. Look at Gov Christie in NJ. He was recently blown up with a letter campaign to allow children to use medical marijuana. I wrote him a letter in support of that, along with thousands of other parents that have special needs kids that could benefit from it. It put political pressure on him, and he made the change.

What needs to happen is more scientific, peer reviewed studies on cannabis. If the University of Michigan came out with a study showing that marijuana cured cancer, you'd see a huge wave of support from the public because we all have a loved one that we've lost to cancer, or is battling cancer. People will use their vote on a particular issue only if it personally effects them. Until then, politicians will ignore the majority in favor of the gravy train that comes from the corporate interests that stand to gain from the schedule 1 classification of marijuana.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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I hate to keep sounding like a broken record but the fact that you want to lean toward Dem's as a better choice tell's me that you're not getting it. If you keep leaning toward one party or the other that's what they want. The thing to remember is that trusting in anyone in power or on there way that can and will be bought is what we have done for the last 50 years or more. If you personally cannot be bought then that's where I would start. To keep on saying "Well most dems are better because..." is doing exactly what they want. Who cares if Dems are all for weed and legalize it completely 100% but then say you have to have health care and you cannot own guns? A free country should be exactly that..FREE

We will never be free unless we unify and stop bickering over things like gay marriage, health care, gun ownership, and everything else that keeps us at ends. If everyone was unified against the government, banks, pharms, and everyone else who takes from us and can stop them where they are now then they would realize that they can have the world they want, free to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm someone else. What to do exactly when we get there I'm not sure but taking sides will never work. The war on drugs will never work, I wish we could all see the two as the same.
 
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