GandalfdaGreen
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I love the pictures Hamish. I don't love that they are showing that though. I am pissed for you bro. Is all the Hermie shit true with this strain? I don't think a Mg issue would trigger this.
Total Noob using teas and I am a believer
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mycomaster
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I have to agree with Gandalf, I really don't think the problem was a Ca or Mg def. The genetics used in most modern strains seem tainted by all these hermaphroditic traits that love to pop up out of nowhere. I wasn't gonna say anything mostly because I've been so damn busy lately, but my Blue O.G. had one single nanner on the thing when she got trimmed. It really doesn't take alot to make one of these ladies pop em if it's in her D.N.A. The trouble is who the heck really knows where the genetics come from for many of these strains as it's never actually what it is. Sometimes you have breeders like Bodhi who I believe would not work with such garbage as a hermaphroditic strain, and if he did I think there would be info pertaining to this information. Now with some other breeders you get what they claim to have, even if they know darn well it's lies, and B.S. I really think I'm gonna start to narrow down my breeders in the future to the ones i trust, and not the ones I just want to work out for me. I know there is a lemon pledge dream strain out there for you Hamish that won't let you down after spending 2 months working with it. I can't tell you how depressing those photos are, I know that's alot of medicine right into the garbage can, along with some hopes, and dreams as well. SOOO frustrating brother! I wish you the best of luck with your Dream Beaver although I have a distinct feeling you won't need it with those ladies. Peace, Love, and Light. Oh, and off to the compost with the T-hoe!
VTMi'kmaq
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ya know we may be better off trying to create our own strains. I have oldschool northeast genetics, I just don't share with everyone that's all. Nor do I have a firm enough grasp on successful breeding to put anything to the test as of yet. I know it works because the locals here don't frequent any cannabis seed banks, they don't have a doctor prescribing them an mmj card. There just natives whove done what they do since before they were born. Ive only had one strain that was stronger then whats here locally. It was a strain called mcfly and I haven't seen anything stable that's fire in both harvest weight and quality. just a thought because id love nothing better than to create a strain that helps other farmers achieve there goals!
Illegal Wonder
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True total noob here... I started in Coco and using the GH Flora nute line, went terribly and failed. After talking to Gand here a bit I switched over to Pro mix soil and the GH Organics Go Box. My "Real" first grow as I like to call it has been much better. Got Heri fems from Sannies and they're about 3 weeks into flower now.
GandalfdaGreen
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He is seeing a loss of green and some spots on some leaves. This is his first grow. Here is the schedule he is following. He is a really good guy who is trying to learn. I am thinking he may want to add some BioThrive Grow. Maybe 5ml per watering for the next few waterings when he feeds. Cutting them off from N is showing I think.
VTMi'kmaq
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The one in the middle looks to me like its more effected than the other two, then again im not there to get up close and inhale there waft lmao im a weirdo like that, they seem to be overall (for your first grow bear in mind) doing well imho. Not bad at all for your first time dude seriously! Course im sure it helps having tutildge from Gandalf! I had to learn hard knocks sorta speak.
GandalfdaGreen
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I agree with you that they look nice. They are all praying. I like that a lot. What do you think Illegal? Add a touch of Grow? Which component had the Ca and Mg in it? Just curious.
GandalfdaGreen
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He uses distilled water. His tap water is not so great. We had a ton of problems with it before. Could be CaMg issues. I really like the looks of the two end ones also. I bet they are your keepers.
Illegal Wonder
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I had to roll with the punches so to speak in the early stages of getting my grow together, but having met Gand on here and all his info and willingness to help have definitely been showing huge improvements and results in my grow. I've been using distilled water. Those pics are prior to my green issues, the last 3 days have shown a few issues... The one currently most effected is the one on the right, its lost the most green especially since its bigger than the others.
Thanks for all the quick feedback guys, glad I threw in on this thread.
Thanks for all the quick feedback guys, glad I threw in on this thread.
GandalfdaGreen
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Hang in there. More opinions to come.
Illegal Wonder
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The middle one is the most frosty so far... The last feeding still had the Grow component in it (just reaching early bloom), so I'm not sure if its lack of N but I'm obviously trusting your judgement you haven't lead me stray yet. I think I had a moisture stress issue from under watering followed by ph issues. I think I need a new meter, this one is sketchy and sometimes takes forever to give me a reading...
the Ca Mg+ is its own bottle, if that's what you were asking?
the Ca Mg+ is its own bottle, if that's what you were asking?
st0wandgrow
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I'm very familiar with the General Organics line. I used it for 7 or 8 cycles before switching to amending my own soil.
I used Happy Frog soil with the GO lineup. I think lighter green leaves, some necrosis on the leaves, and an early fade is to be expected. I did dial it in a bit better after the first couple harvests by feeding heavier than the recommended dosages, but even then I still noticed the same things to a lesser degree. I ended up bumping the biothrive bloom up to 15 ml per gallon from the recommended 10 ml, and I added 5 ml per gallon of the biothrive grow in addition to that through the 4'th week of flower, and that seemed to help some.
The good news is that despite some shoddy looking fan leaves, the flowers were very nice and frosty, and the smoke was very good! Much better results than the Fox Farms chemical lineup I transitioned from. Don't get too hung up on each and every fan leaf. Water enough to keep the soil moist (not drenched), and short of any other unforeseen problems you will end up with a nice crop.
FWIW, I watered 3 times a week, feeding them two of those waterings, with a watering with no nutes in between.
Good luck
I used Happy Frog soil with the GO lineup. I think lighter green leaves, some necrosis on the leaves, and an early fade is to be expected. I did dial it in a bit better after the first couple harvests by feeding heavier than the recommended dosages, but even then I still noticed the same things to a lesser degree. I ended up bumping the biothrive bloom up to 15 ml per gallon from the recommended 10 ml, and I added 5 ml per gallon of the biothrive grow in addition to that through the 4'th week of flower, and that seemed to help some.
The good news is that despite some shoddy looking fan leaves, the flowers were very nice and frosty, and the smoke was very good! Much better results than the Fox Farms chemical lineup I transitioned from. Don't get too hung up on each and every fan leaf. Water enough to keep the soil moist (not drenched), and short of any other unforeseen problems you will end up with a nice crop.
FWIW, I watered 3 times a week, feeding them two of those waterings, with a watering with no nutes in between.
Good luck
GandalfdaGreen
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- You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to st0wandgrow again.
CoreyATX420
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looks to me like N and P are needed here. just my 2 cents . but looks alot like both. its just interesting to me that the ones closer to the top would be yellow and not he lower ones.
st0wandgrow
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Illegal Wonder:
Another thing to consider (if you haven't already done so) is foliar feeding. You can pick up a spray bottle, a bottle of Pro-tekt, and a bottle of organic aloe juice all for around $30. Mix up a spray bottle with a small amount of Pro-tekt, and some aloe and foliar feed your girls once a week with this. I think you'll notice some good results...
Another thing to consider (if you haven't already done so) is foliar feeding. You can pick up a spray bottle, a bottle of Pro-tekt, and a bottle of organic aloe juice all for around $30. Mix up a spray bottle with a small amount of Pro-tekt, and some aloe and foliar feed your girls once a week with this. I think you'll notice some good results...
Illegal Wonder
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I was actually planning on asking gand what I could do for a foliar while using the Go Box.
st0wandgrow
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Yes! Aloe is full of salicylic acid, along with auxins, amino acids, and even some potassium! Almost all of the ROLS guys use at as a soil drench, foliar spray, and some even use the fresh gel as a rooting agent in place of something like clonex.
I'll have to check another thread to see how they prepare fresh aloe to be used as a foliar (so it doesn't gum up your nozzle). I believe they boil it for a short duration, but don't quote me on that just yet. I do know that you have to use fresh aloe pretty quickly. It doesn't last long once you cut open a frond.