So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Rrog said:
BIMs. Beneficial Indigenous Microbes

Same reason I like a shovel-full of local fieldgrass soil (no ferts or pesticides). It's teeming with the top microbes best suited for your area. A jar of microbes from a store will simply be duplicating what's already in the soil, and what's in the soil will eventually beat down whatever you add so you may as well use the free soil you have in your yard.
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I guess my soil is getting to a point where this is a good idea... Rrog, this place was real f*@#ed up when we got here, pesticide-riddled, dead dead soil. Been working on the rehab for about 5 years :/ I've been harvesting my microbes from the mountains close to us, not taking any soil out (it's a world heritage site) but using the 'buried rice' method instead, along with my most healthy horse-compost heap. Not too keen on disturbing the compost too much for a while though...
OK so I am doing another soil cook and adding some of my garden soil like you suggest :) Put a little faith in myself here, guess it's time for that!
 
OneStonedPony

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captainmorgan said:
I had couple things I forgot to tell you, the base was 1/3 premier sphagnum peat, 1/3 growstone and 1/3 of a 50/50 mix EWC and dairy doo manure compost and I also added 2 tablespoons of humic acid granules.
I wet each C/F with a gallon of water with a tablespoon of super plant tonic, it has endo and ecto bacteria,myco fugi and a few other things.
I didn't pre-treat the biochar, I crushed the lump charcoal then ran it through a blender and turned it into a powder. Will this cause a problem?
So I should wait 5 weeks before using it? How about transplanting something that's vegged for 30 days?
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Capt, I also use Super Plant Tonic from BMO, in a mix of generic peat moss, compost, worm castings, and left over hydro peebles (on the bottom of my pots). I'm interested in using some Bio-Char in my next crop. I hear it not only gives the micro life a place to hang and populate, but is a 1st class source of carbon, which boosts life in the root zone, and strenthens the plants themselves. The SPT is easy to come by, where do you guys find the Bio-Char ?
 
captainmorgan

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OneStonedPony said:
Capt, I also use Super Plant Tonic from BMO, in a mix of generic peat moss, compost, worm castings, and left over hydro peebles (on the bottom of my pots). I'm interested in using some Bio-Char in my next crop. I hear it not only gives the micro life a place to hang and populate, but is a 1st class source of carbon, which boosts life in the root zone, and strenthens the plants themselves. The SPT is easy to come by, where do you guys find the Bio-Char ?
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I got a bag of natural hardwood lump charcoal from Kroger. It's just pieces of scrap hardwood put through the bio-char process for your barbecue. You can buy bio-char for the garden online but I thought it was pricey,the lump charcoal is quite messy to break down but cheap.
 
OneStonedPony

OneStonedPony

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Thanks Captainmorgan, There's a Kroger a few blocks from where I live. I'll check there first. I hate to pay shipping on anything I can pick up locally.
 
dr.tree

dr.tree

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Dose root organics count I'm a dirt bagger rip the bag open put the clone in grow it right in the bag. I love it and no one will ever get me to change. Add some bennies when I'm finished the soil is a solid mushroom culture. On top of that I use a.n. an not the organic stuff. You just have to watch the ppm so you don't kill your mushroom s.
 
Someacdude

Someacdude

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dr.tree said:
I was such a hydro nut. So much show just no go
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Left my local supplier a few hours ago, he also owns a coop and grows, hes using soil , however he adds nuets to it.

Guy tried to tell me i should use his soil and add nutes instead of using the super soil i have made up already.

Between him and the guys on the other thread who only recommend one led light im starting to stress.

Ive got about 30 plants started and none are going to be the same size when i go into bloom aaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhhhh
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Your supersoil is fine. No worries. And you can add to it and make it better. Even fewer worries.

You can make better soil than your local supplier GUAR AN TEED

You can start saving huge $$ for the best soil this side of Nirvana.

Don't stress brother! You've come to the right place!
 
GandalfdaGreen

GandalfdaGreen

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Rrog said:
Your supersoil is fine. No worries. And you can add to it and make it better. Even fewer worries.

You can make better soil than your local supplier GUAR AN TEED

You can start saving huge $$ for the best soil this side of Nirvana.

Don't stress brother! You've come to the right place!
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And then some.
 
Someacdude

Someacdude

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Rrog said:
Your supersoil is fine. No worries. And you can add to it and make it better. Even fewer worries.

You can make better soil than your local supplier GUAR AN TEED

You can start saving huge $$ for the best soil this side of Nirvana.

Don't stress brother! You've come to the right place!
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Thanks guys, also the two guys i installed ac units for who where supposed to help me are no where to be found.
a hole gave me 6 clones and a mother and sent me on my way,,,,,,im really sick of people.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Guys... My A/b comparison of the Dream Beaver in dtw hydro v/s living soil is at a point where I can comment: Living soil same growth rate if not a tad faster. Here's the kicker though... First leaves are already twice the size and a deeper green in the soil. Soil babies were germinated ten days after dtw... Got a feeling they will be overtaking their sisters really soon. Mind. BLOWN. Hydro faster? Who came up with that myth and how on earth is it still perpetuating? The difference is obvious. Pics tomorrow along with measurements. Can't wait for the yield comparison. Got a feeling soil yield is going to be MUCH higher. Hell yessssss. Loving this.
 
dr.tree

dr.tree

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Hydro done right (a.n.) is epic mind blowing yields just retarded Hugh. All b grade compared to living soil quality. Just how it worked out for me. I lost 20% or so yield. Worth every % point. A lot cheaper and less work
 
Rrog

Rrog

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Fine-tuned third generation no-till in a fabric pot sportin' daddy's worm compost and teas... I think we can get that 20% back.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Yeah I've got my ebb n flow pretty jacked, to the point where nothing ever faded and I literally have roots caking the root-mat by week 6 in an SoG, Hydroton substrate, Lucas Formula... All the time and additives, if taken away, already evens out even a 20 percent drop pretty much. Best part of this Living Soil is: I get more time with my family, and my garden too. If the soil is cooked right, it really is a breeze. All the work is in the study beforehand, diligence while learning about it will pay off in SPADES over time I feel.
I've reached the point of not only being totally converted, but I am spreading the word. I'm feeling really EXCITED with this. It truly is EPIC.
 
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