Schuylaar's Sesh - Treason

Red1966

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Your right, I really don't know much about El Tib, besides his crude insult to Schuylaar, and I really don't want to. I apologize for assuming he was a Republican, but seeing as this OP has been pretty much "us against them", or Democrats vs. Republican, it just struck me that he was in one camp or another, and with his use of such eloquent speech, I thought that would have put him squarely in the Republican camp. My mistake.
Racism seems to be his motivation, not politics. But he's a good example of what La Raza stands for. Democrats welcome La Raza into their fold, while La Raza plans to kill them in their sleep and laughs at their stupidity.
 

Dr Kynes

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i still gotta wonder why disagreeing with democrats = treason, but disagreeing with republicans (or libertarians) is a civic duty.

maybe if we all just became democrats and shit all over everyone who doesnt agree with us we can take our country back by flushing it down the crapper...
 

Samwell Seed Well

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i still gotta wonder why disagreeing with democrats = treason, but disagreeing with republicans (or libertarians) is a civic duty.

maybe if we all just became democrats and shit all over everyone who doesnt agree with us we can take our country back by flushing it down the crapper...
did she say that?
 

Red1966

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i still gotta wonder why disagreeing with democrats = treason, but disagreeing with republicans (or libertarians) is a civic duty. maybe if we all just became democrats and shit all over everyone who doesnt agree with us we can take our country back by flushing it down the crapper...
I joined the Democrat party years ago. It's mandatory for state employees.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Doc, so making war against Libya without congressional approval because their leader is a better pimp isn't treason?
 

Doer

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And is not gaming the game the name of the game? I am sure it is. Those caught go to jail. But, this idea of Treason is more strict than most people understand regarding the President.
REALLY? i was referring to voter suppression ie; pennsylvania was that guy ever charged with plotting against the us?..it's on vid..

Oh don't be blue.
We are really taking about the same thing. Game the game and don't get charged...how's that? :)
 

Samwell Seed Well

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this aint my first rodeo cowboy.

lefties always start screaming about treason when policy isnt going their way.

it's kinda tiresome really.
but in this case policy has gone their way and the opposite losing side is now doing exactly that which OP as suggested, on a issue that has as much to do with affordable healthcare act as it does the Canadian oil pipeline contract which the republicans have decided to umbrella their main topic with others tipical manipulation of politics and in this case one that could be deemed illegal and treasonous

tiresome would be false flag agendas can you please tell me witha straight face that the gov shut down is about Obama care and not6 ten or so different issues these losers have lost on ...disrupting the political process with a tantrum should be considered act of passive aggression agianst the nation
 

Doer

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Doc, so making war against Libya without congressional approval because their leader is a better pimp isn't treason?
Show me where it say the President needs Congressional approval to grab someone that is wanted already. Isn't he suppose to do that?

You don't get to define when we are messing with the Sunni Jihad as war, and you don't get to put limits on Presidential...ahem...outreach.

Congress has already passed sufficient authority, in general. And more than once. Despite whatever the Congress says the Constitution still says about War, Congress "shall" only. It does not say what the President utters as Oath.....what he WILL do. Big, big difference in Law.
 

Dr Kynes

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Doc, so making war against Libya without congressional approval because their leader is a better pimp isn't treason?
nope. not at all.

treason is making war on the US or giving substantive aid or comfort to the enemy (this implies, and has long been interpreted as, an actively hostile government or regime)

even insurrection is not treason.

treason is a VERY specific charge.

if barrack obama decided to leave the US, head back to kenya (lol) and declare war on the US or join up with Kony to make war on the US, THEN it would be treason.

likewise attempting to subvert the constitution (like FDR did) is NOT actually treason except in the broadest and least accurate meaning.

bill clinton's deeds in selling US missile guidance technology to the chinese for campaign contributions isnt even treason but rather, Espionage.
 

chewberto

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El tiberon loves the "white man" he's always talking about "your people this, your people that" I know he loves America! What a great waiter!
 

El Tiberon

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treason is a VERY specific charge.

if barrack obama decided to leave the US, head back to kenya (lol) and declare war on the US or join up with Kony to make war on the US, THEN it would be treason.
This is wrong. If he renounces citizenship he can not be charged for treason in a country he does not claim and has legally renounced.
 

Dr Kynes

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Show me where it say the President needs Congressional approval to grab someone that is wanted already. Isn't he suppose to do that?

You don't get to define when we are messing with the Sunni Jihad as war, and you don't get to put limits on Presidential...ahem...outreach.

Congress has already passed sufficient authority, in general. And more than once. Despite whatever the Congress says the Constitution still says about War, Congress "shall" only. It does not say what the President utters as Oath.....what he WILL do. Big, big difference in Law.
supreme court precedent, posse comitatus, the war powers act, and many other portions of the US code, as well as several relevant sections of the constitution LIMIT the preident (and congress) to powers expressly granted by the constitution, this by definition EXCLUDES powers not granted, and the power to enforce US law on foreign nationals on foreign soil is NOT included.

the last time i checked there had been no new amendments to the constitution which might change that, thus these actions are extra-constitutional, and thus illegal.

when we want a dirtbag who is hiding in a foreign land we must engage in diplomacy and treaty, not cowboy justice (at least until theres an R in the whitehouse...;-)).

barrack is a dilettante playing far outside his depth. (implying that GWB was an expert, and at the top of his field... shit even i am embarrassed by that.)

SHALL is a compulsion, MAY is permissive,

congress retains the exclusive power to declare war. at least until the create Dept of War and Inhuman Services which shall of course be given the power to execute dissidents on the street, and disband congress should there be a republican majority.
 

Canna Sylvan

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The One took an oath to obey the Constitution. He bombed Libya. That's a declared act of war. The Constitution states a declaration of war must originate in the House. The One declared war while the House wasn't even in sesh. That makes the Brahmin in Chief a treasonous bastard.
 

Dr Kynes

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This is wrong. If he renounces citizenship he can not be charged for treason in a country he does not claim and has legally renounced.
El Papanatas is trying to swim with the Snarks..

you have no idea how difficult it actually is to renounce US citizenship you festering boil on a hippopotamus' scrotum.

one must stand before a duly authorized member of the State Dept, and publicly renounce your citizenship, you must then do it again in writing, and then the renunciation must be accepted by the secretary of state in writing, with the offcial seal , and only then will you be a stateless freebooter.

i would cite the appropriate section of the US code for you but i dont have any respect for you as a human being.

even bucky cheezie and joe biden are more useful than yourself.
 

El Tiberon

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El tiberon loves the "white man" he's always talking about "your people this, your people that" I know he loves America! What a great waiter!
Very close. There are a few people I personally take care of when they come to the restaurant. Rodrigo Guerrero being one of them and he is a weekly customer. The rest are people you would not know. In all honesty I will miss the chaos of this place when we come to Palo Alto. We will be opening another place, so things will not change much for us. If you are looking for a job, you can wash dishes and sweep my floors for me. I will pay you the minimum wage and beat you daily like a white slave should be beaten.
 

Dr Kynes

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The One took an oath to obey the Constitution. He bombed Libya. That's a declared act of war. The Constitution states a declaration of war must originate in the House. The One declared war while the House wasn't even in sesh. That makes the Brahmin in Chief a treasonous bastard.
no. bombing libya is an Act Of War, which the War Powers Act allows him to do, for up to 30 days before congress may tell him to fuck off.

a Declaration of War can only come from the Congress


even if you were correct (which you aint) it still would not be treason unless he bombed congress.
 
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