chewberto
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Any health benefits?
Schuylaar's Sesh - Treason
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El Tiberon
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It is quite easy. You first must be in a foreign country. You make an appointment to appear before the consulate with the intent to renounce. You only need to bring your US passport and the papers of the country you are residing. You simply sign an oath in front of an official of the US consulate. You give them your passport, and wait for them to send you the paperwork that you are no longer a US citizen.
It is quite easy.
El Tiberon
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If you work hard I will not beat you to death. That is your benefit.
Red1966
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Clinton wasn't a spy, so not espionage. That was treason. But without an active war, it doesn't get a death penalty. And since he's a Democrat, he gets a free pass.
chewberto
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Sounds like a pretty good deal! Deal breaker though, do I need to pay for the Taco Bell uniform up front, or can it be deducted from my first paycheck?
Dr Kynes
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sure it sounds easy when you gloss over the "secretary must accept your renunciation" part, but since every dime any american citizen earns in any country in the world is taxable by the IRS regardless of any other taxes, no, they dont let you go.
actually renouncing US citizenship is a slugfest with the state dept.
even ira einhorn couldnt renounce his citizenship, and he tried.
Red1966
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Who was wanted and who did he grab? Uh, no one?
El Tiberon
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It is very easy gringo. Only your opinion says it is not.
The best thing?
Even if you do renounce, you can come back on visa.
Canna Sylvan
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Article I, section 8, clause 11. There's no amendment which nullifies that. So any act which states otherwise is unconstitutional. Just like we can't say whites are now the black man's slave with the Civil Rights Act. The president is a member of the military and must do like all good soldiers, obey what the constitution says above all other laws, even if he is my cracker whip master.
There are actually regulations in place to make that difficult, gringo.
Red1966
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Name dropping some one we haven't heard of doesn't give the respect you seem to so desperately crave. It merely makes you look foolish. Nice of you to tell us you'll be opening a taco stand in Palo Alto. We'll come by and pay you a visit.
El Tiberon
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Money buys everything in your country gringo. You may act like you know what you are talking about but I will tell you two ways I can tell you don't.
You have no experience in foreign policy
You are poor
Red1966
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Can we put bombing Congress up to a vote? Puh-leeese?
El Tiberon
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Unless you own a jacket and tie you won't get inside. Even then, seat will be limited per night. This drives the cost per plate up.
Red1966
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You're not required to eat the tacos!
Dr Kynes
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within the vagaries of the language of the article, congress drafted the War Powers Act which is generally regarded as "good law".
too strict an adherence to the letter of the constitution changes it from a framework for government into a prison. not that a few years in the joint wouldnt do the US government some good.
i mean, it could get some reading done, maybe take a few extension courses, learn a new language, and of course lift weights. if uncle same doesnt come out of the pen Ripped then i dont know what he was thinking...
El Tiberon
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This from someone who has publicly stated he wants to execute the members of his own Congress.
Isn't that a crime in your country?
Red1966
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Several have tried, without success. If you're wanted, or have taxable assets, slim chance.
El Tiberon
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You can only be taxed on what you have in that moment. What you make after that day is not under the rules of the IRS. You can not gain citizenship in another country if wanted unless they accept you knowing this. Most countries have extradition treaties with the US. It is almost impossible now to make it happen unless you do something like the American who is in Russia in this moment and he never renounced.
Renouncing means you will be checked. You are opening your life and also closing it at the same time. If you have something to hide it would be a bad decision to do this.
I know a dozen gringos in Colombia who have renounced. They do very well and the process was quite easy for them.
Red1966
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Your taco stand has seats? Not counting the sidewalk, I mean. Oh, I see. One seat..... Probably one plate, too. Poor El Timid, he has such delusions of adequacy!