What do Progressives Contribute to Our Country

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LIBERTYCHICKEN

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El Tiberon said:
Lines didn't exist until white people started drawing them. Fuck your twin towers. Your response to those buildings coming down made the world worse off. The Israelis have big buildings. None of them have been bombed. In fact, they haven't had a plane get hijacked in decades and they have looser standards than those fat uneducated clowns you call the TSA in your airports. Someday you people will learn that all of those things happened to allow the right wingers to tighten up their grip on your people. So again, fuck your towers and the white trash that died in them.
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''fuck your towers and the white trash that died in them.''

Thats one screwed up statment ,but it speaks volumes about you
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Canna Sylvan said:
That was a lame attempt at trolling. So you're lying again. Why can't you admit you're Bizarro Clayton Bigsby already.
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what el tib is doing is trolling.

what nietzsche and his band of loyals was doing was not trolling.

how do i know it for a fact?

i made a fake POF account and talked to him personally. i know the town where he lives, what he looks like, who his wife was, and so much more.

those white supremacists were not trolling. they were white supremacists.

and unlike with el tib, who gets you screaming racism like there's no tomorrow, you never stood up to actual white supremacists.

that's telling.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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UncleBuck said:
what el tib is doing is trolling.

what nietzsche and his band of loyals was doing was not trolling.

how do i know it for a fact?

i made a fake POF account and talked to him personally. i know the town where he lives, what he looks like, who his wife was, and so much more.

those white supremacists were not trolling. they were white supremacists.

and unlike with el tib, who gets you screaming racism like there's no tomorrow, you never stood up to actual white supremacists.

that's telling.
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I knew Tib was fake just like Wordz redneck James account. I don't give a fuck about racism. But I do get a kick out of those like you who think the minorities are too stupid without the white man's help. Progressives would be pure hilarity if the threat of totalitarian socialism and communism weren't real. But who's Nietzche? I never saw that thread before. I'm just a free market capitalist vegan writer,nice to meet you. No I don't get paid in Bitcoins. See how friendly I am when you don't fuck with me?
 
TheBeardedStoner

TheBeardedStoner

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Canna Sylvan said:
You haven't been here long. That's all threads in this section.
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Well I mean politics in a nutshell is just one big pissing contest anymore.
I think it's honestly sad that my fellow tokers/growers/enthusiasts of the herb aren't discussing and formulating ways that we could potentially change the system for the better of ourselves, rather than try to one up each other with both sides of the argument spewing half truths and bickering like school girls.
Instead it's more racism, epeen comparison, and bigotry.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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TheBeardedStoner said:
Well I mean politics in a nutshell is just one big pissing contest anymore.
I think it's honestly sad that my fellow tokers/growers/enthusiasts of the herb aren't discussing and formulating ways that we could potentially change the system for the better of ourselves, rather than try to one up each other with both sides of the argument spewing half truths and bickering like school girls.
Instead it's more racism, epeen comparison, and bigotry.
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I agree with all that, except if done under the threat of force. People can be bigoted and racist all they want. You're not my friend if you are though. It should only be stopped when it violates liberty and freedom.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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cannabineer said:
Dissenting opinion. The sweet, flaky crust of progressivism is the idea of civil liberties. The dark heart of progressivism is total control by the collectibe over the individual. Marx, Lenin, Stalin. The progression (sic!) is such that once initiated, resistance is futile.
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You are free to surrender. I am free to keep on moving. Civil Liberties is part of it, the real allure is progress. We both fear the future but for different reasons. I don't see dark heart abstractions, I see consumption as the irresistible, change as necessary, and a fight no body can win. I don't give up though....
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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TheBeardedStoner said:
Well I mean politics in a nutshell is just one big pissing contest anymore.
I think it's honestly sad that my fellow tokers/growers/enthusiasts of the herb aren't discussing and formulating ways that we could potentially change the system for the better of ourselves, rather than try to one up each other with both sides of the argument spewing half truths and bickering like school girls.
Instead it's more racism, epeen comparison, and bigotry.
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A simple solution would be to limit central planning. Absolute power and all that. This is one major problem I have with the 100 year old progressive movement in this country, to them, it means using government as the agency to get their way. Increasing governmental power decreases individual power and increases corruption, this is not what our great experiment was supposed to be about. Your ideology may be called progressive, but in reality, it aims to emulate centuries old systems that have failed over and over again. I'm not sure if it's lack of intelligence or massive egos that leads man to think THIS time it will work.

We could limit the damage of elected officials by limiting their purpose, seems so logical to me I don't understand why the opposite is fought for.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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ginwilly said:
A simple solution would be to limit central planning. Absolute power and all that. This is one major problem I have with the 100 year old progressive movement in this country, to them, it means using government as the agency to get their way. Increasing governmental power decreases individual power and increases corruption, this is not what our great experiment was supposed to be about. Your ideology may be called progressive, but in reality, it aims to emulate centuries old systems that have failed over and over again. I'm not sure if it's lack of intelligence or massive egos that leads man to think THIS time it will work.

We could limit the damage of elected officials by limiting their purpose, seems so logical to me I don't understand why the opposite is fought for.
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No offense, but we are in a system that fails for us. Progressivism is change for the better, your reforms are progressive to you but without the ego or ignorance?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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burgertime2010 said:
No offense, but we are in a system that fails for us. Progressivism is change for the better, your reforms are progressive to you but without the ego or ignorance?
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none taken

To point out something, the system fails for you, for many, we still see America as the land of opportunity, although those opportunities are nearly regulated away. Our government has screwed the pooch with our corporate laws, we could start there. If I own my business i can expense a Vegas trip if I cross my ts and dot my i correctly. I'm for laws that apply to everyone, not just those who are connected.

What ideas are progressive presenting that are new? Let's look at history and figure out why you think your ideas will work THIS time.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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The scope of such a task is enormous. I will start by saying progressivism gets conveniently redefined so there might be a difference between the commie progressives and the social progressives. Not new, but not resolved is same sex marriage rights, drug legalization, tax on religions, eradication of corporate welfare, campaign finance reforms and many more. Actually, the system saved me....I am disabled.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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Here is a problem, I don't want to be unable to work and I don't want to live off 150 dollars per week from disability. What the fuck do I do? How do I get off the govt teat when I need it to maintain? I wish context had no bearing on these issues but historical precedent is not a fair way to reference something that never worked. It is never going to be that easy....I am used to that. I am also used to being ignored when I make a point. How about it? any of these issues worth a discussion?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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burgertime2010 said:
Here is a problem, I don't want to be unable to work and I don't want to live off 150 dollars per week from disability. What the fuck do I do? How do I get off the govt teat when I need it to maintain?
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Without getting into personal details, sorry for your situation, you've been dealt a shitty hand and it will take efforts from you that others don't have to give. In my profession I've seen people deemed "disabled" over broken ankles because they couldn't do their previous job anymore and I've see quadraplegics making bank. I even worked for a man that broke his neck in high school, needed help buttoning shirts so he wore polos, that owned 6 hospitals and 12 nursing homes. I've seen overweight truck drivers be diagnosed with diabetes and start drawing a SSI check. I could lose both legs and still do my job.

As long as you have a working mind (which you obviously have) I can't consider you disabled, just handicapped (although we are not allowed to call it that anymore). Admittedly, labor jobs may be off the table for you but your mind seems to function fine.
 
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