Mechanization and the Future

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
I pose a question. What happens when mechanization of the work force reaches the point of elimination of human labor?
 

NightOwlBono

Well-Known Member
With machines doing everything,people would still need to maintain/lube the moving parts
There would just be less jobs available,less people being taxed..

Everyone without jobs could Trade and barter,work a week labour to pay for something
it could work,as long as greed doesn't get involved......BTW that's my forest over there,and my drinking water too....
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
The jobs will simply be different jobs. Robot assembly, maintenance, repair.

Someone will need to program the robots or direct them what to do.
 

Bombur

Well-Known Member
How do you make a living in a world with no jobs? Who does the government tax?

How do you consume with no money?
If there was literally no need for human labor why would we even need money? Who would be selling stuff if there was limitless stuff? We would have completely self-sustained production of absolutely everything. And if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be true that there was no need for human labor.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
The jobs will simply be different jobs. Robot assembly, maintenance, repair.

Someone will need to program the robots or direct them what to do.
Robots cannot assemble robots? How many times do you have to write a program?
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
If there was literally no need for human labor why would we even need money? Who would be selling stuff if there was limitless stuff? We would have completely self-sustained production of absolutely everything. And if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be true that there was no need for human labor.
That is the paradox. Do humans become useless?
 

Bombur

Well-Known Member
That is the paradox. Do humans become useless?
In terms of production they would be, but with no need for labor people would be have complete free time. Everyone could do what they wanted, which is what makes me call it a utopia. But many people would probably become stagnant.. the movie wall-e comes to mind.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
In terms of production they would be, but with no need for labor people would be have complete free time. Everyone could do what they wanted, which is what makes me call it a utopia. But many people would probably become stagnant.. the movie wall-e comes to mind.
The population would explode.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Okay so obviously human labor wouldn't be eliminated. Would there not be a severe lack of jobs?
Think about your typical walmart and realize how many and how complicated the jobs are. Receiving, stocking, cleanup on aisle 5, returns, security, checkout, maintenance, general cleaning, item re-stocking.

Sure, some of those jobs could be automated but the whole system could not be with our technology.

Same goes for farming jobs. You might have an automated tractor but figuring out how to fix it when it breaks wont be the job for a robot for a long time yet.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Think about your typical walmart and realize how many and how complicated the jobs are. Receiving, stocking, cleanup on aisle 5, returns, security, checkout, maintenance, general cleaning, item re-stocking.
in other words, your typical day.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Is your inability to remember things and act or are you clinically retarded?
that's not even a coherent sentence.

:lol:

clinically retarded is domestic oil in alberta.

clinically retarded is a landlocked iran.

clinically retarded is the skewed polls nonsense you went on and on about.

clinically retarded is the argument that surpluses can disappear depending on how you adjust for inflation.

you are the very embodiment of clinically retarded, child.

please, go away and stay away this time. your services here are not needed. we have other people to laugh at who don't leave us with that guilty feeling of deriving entertainment from a clinically retarded child.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
that's not even a coherent sentence.

:lol:

clinically retarded is domestic oil in alberta.

clinically retarded is a landlocked iran.

clinically retarded is the skewed polls nonsense you went on and on about.

clinically retarded is the argument that surpluses can disappear depending on how you adjust for inflation.

you are the very embodiment of clinically retarded, child.

please, go away and stay away this time. your services here are not needed. we have other people to laugh at who don't leave us with that guilty feeling of deriving entertainment from a clinically retarded child.
Refer to my sig
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;6GK4mjfpk58]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GK4mjfpk58[/video]

Is this thread a response to the initiative being put forward in Switzerland?
I believe we do need to consider this concept; the idea of eating to work instead of working to eat.
 
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