Why haven't African Americans assimilated into American culture...?

[Dr Kynes]

I thought the "point" was to provide a base platform (albeit, fragile) which allows one to "do it themselves". But what is it ?
Can you define it for me? It's too vague of a term considering it is a pronoun.

"It" was supposed to be a "safety net" so when somebody slips while climbing the economic ladder or walking the social mobility tightrope they dont splatter on the rocks far below.

"It" has become something less.

"It" is now more of an economic moat full of effluent. when you fall off the ladder while attempting to scale the walls of the economic castle, you land in the moat, and are unable to climb out due to the steep sides and the spikes and broken glass embedded into the top rim.

once trapped in the welfare moat, all you can do is splash around in the filth of your "betters" while they jeer and sneer from the battlements and occasionally throw shit on you.

this is how The Great Society/War On Poverty was designed.

for all their lies and assertions that evil conservatives are keeping everybody down, it is the LEFT that builds barriers to entry and sabotages the attempts of the poor to climb out of the filth.

conservatives love to see other people do well (unless they are "doing well" in direct competition with themselves...) because those now affluent people will buy shit from the businesses and industries of conservatives.

it is the LEFT who sneer and make cracks about "Trailer Parks" and "White Trash", while they hide their equal disdain of poor minorities behind a facade of liberal sympathy.

"It" should be a certain point which no american should fall below, with ample assistance for those who wish to climb higher, and ample "positive reinforcement" for those who are content to lay on the bottom for a while, followed by a cattle prod and shock collar for those who would rather malinger on the dole.

instead "It" is a shackle, a plantation, a trap for the unwary or unmotivated designed to snare as many victims as possible to ensure that those on top dont have to face to many competitors in their Zero Sum Game view of prosperity, a view held ONLY by the leftists.

 

[londonfog]

I thought the "point" was to provide a base platform (albeit, fragile) which allows one to "do it themselves". But what is it ?
Can you define it for me? It's too vague of a term considering it is a pronoun.

I would say it would represent a job or ability to make a living...unfortunately with the lost of jobs in America and the cost of living ever raising it can be pretty damn hard for some to do it.

 

[londonfog]

"It" was supposed to be a "safety net" so when somebody slips while climbing the economic ladder or walking the social mobility tightrope they dont splatter on the rocks far below.

"It" has become something less.

"It" is now more of an economic moat full of effluent. when you fall off the ladder while attempting to scale the walls of the economic castle, you land in the moat, and are unable to climb out due to the steep sides and the spikes and broken glass embedded into the top rim.

once trapped in the welfare moat, all you can do is splash around in the filth of your "betters" while they jeer and sneer from the battlements and occasionally throw shit on you.

this is how The Great Society/War On Poverty was designed.

for all their lies and assertions that evil conservatives are keeping everybody down, it is the LEFT that builds barriers to entry and sabotages the attempts of the poor to climb out of the filth.

conservatives love to see other people do well (unless they are "doing well" in direct competition with themselves...) because those now affluent people will buy shit from the businesses and industries of conservatives.

it is the LEFT who sneer and make cracks about "Trailer Parks" and "White Trash", while they hide their equal disdain of poor minorities behind a facade of liberal sympathy.

"It" should be a certain point which no american should fall below, with ample assistance for those who wish to climb higher, and ample "positive reinforcement" for those who are content to lay on the bottom for a while, followed by a cattle prod and shock collar for those who would rather malinger on the dole.

instead "It" is a shackle, a plantation, a trap for the unwary or unmotivated designed to snare as many victims as possible to ensure that those on top dont have to face to many competitors in their Zero Sum Game view of prosperity, a view held ONLY by the leftists.

you write a lot of shit but actually say nothing.

 

[heckler73]

I would say it would represent a job or ability to make a living...unfortunately with the lost of jobs in America and the cost of living ever raising it can be pretty damn hard for some to do it.

Thanks for the response. I feel Kynes may have misinterpreted it. But since that is your definition, would you mind telling me what "make a living" implies?
That is, what amount of income (which I presume is the metric by which you measure this) is required before one can determine they have made "a living"?

 

[sfkling]

the question is why don't white folks get arrested at the same rates as minorities? None of us are guiltless, but we all don't end up in jail. See mandatory sentencing guidelines and the war on drugs. What is true is that there appear to be elements of poorer society that don't value education. This may be because they feel it won't be difference maker. Sad.
I am always amazed at how we hope to reconcile the difference between races and refuse to look for the common values held between most all folks. It seems to me we are more alike than different. Who keeps the difference debate going?

 

[londonfog]

Thanks for the response. I feel Kynes may have misinterpreted it. But since that is your definition, would you mind telling me what "make a living" implies?
That is, what amount of income (which I presume is the metric by which you measure this) is required before one can determine they have made "a living"?

"making a living" simple means to be able to provide for your family by working. Waking up in the morning and tying those shoes, hitting the door and putting in a solid days work that pays decent enough to take care of yours. With the closing of the steel mills, downsizing, shipping jobs over seas..etc etc Americans have lost that American Dream. Tell you what calll your cable company, bank, electric, or some other company you pay a bill to each month...chances are you could now be talking to David in India.

 

[londonfog]

the question is why don't white folks get arrested at the same rates as minorities? None of us are guiltless, but we all don't end up in jail. See mandatory sentencing guidelines and the war on drugs. What is true is that there appear to be elements of poorer society that don't value education. This may be because they feel it won't be difference maker. Sad.
I am always amazed at how we hope to reconcile the difference between races and refuse to look for the common values held between most all folks. It seems to me we are more alike than different. Who keeps the difference debate going?

I tried to make the same point with the prison time for crack vs cocaine.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

you write a lot of shit but actually say nothing.

Spoken with condescension for the express purpose of marginalizing the opponent by someone with absolutely no right or justification to express any condescension.

Its awesome watching Kynes reduce the lot of you to simpering fools. When the libs respond to well thought out, cleverly written posts with "Nuh-uh, you're stupid" or "You're just racist", it's a dead giveaway that they got nothing.

 

[londonfog]

Spoken with condescension for the express purpose of marginalizing the opponent by someone with absolutely no right or justification to express any condescension.

Its awesome watching Kynes reduce the lot of you to simpering fools. When the libs respond to well thought out, cleverly written posts with "Nuh-uh, you're stupid" or "You're just racist", it's a dead giveaway that they got nothing.

It was awesome watching others changed their sig going against the FOG. Would you care to break down his meaningless dribble.


The questions was ..." What is the it that we are talking about that would have people able to do IT for themselves instead of welfare ...and his answer was

"It" was supposed to be a "safety net" so when somebody slips while climbing the economic ladder or walking the social mobility tightrope they dont splatter on the rocks far below.

"It" has become something less.

"It" is now more of an economic moat full of effluent. when you fall off the ladder while attempting to scale the walls of the economic castle, you land in the moat, and are unable to climb out due to the steep sides and the spikes and broken glass embedded into the top rim.

once trapped in the welfare moat, all you can do is splash around in the filth of your "betters" while they jeer and sneer from the battlements and occasionally throw shit on you.

this is how The Great Society/War On Poverty was designed.

for all their lies and assertions that evil conservatives are keeping everybody down, it is the LEFT that builds barriers to entry and sabotages the attempts of the poor to climb out of the filth.

conservatives love to see other people do well (unless they are "doing well" in direct competition with themselves...) because those now affluent people will buy shit from the businesses and industries of conservatives.

it is the LEFT who sneer and make cracks about "Trailer Parks" and "White Trash", while they hide their equal disdain of poor minorities behind a facade of liberal sympathy.

"It" should be a certain point which no american should fall below, with ample assistance for those who wish to climb higher, and ample "positive reinforcement" for those who are content to lay on the bottom for a while, followed by a cattle prod and shock collar for those who would rather malinger on the dole.

instead "It" is a shackle, a plantation, a trap for the unwary or unmotivated designed to snare as many victims as possible to ensure that those on top dont have to face to many competitors in their Zero Sum Game view of prosperity, a view held ONLY by the leftists.

and your break down is ?????

 

[londonfog]

Spoken with condescension for the express purpose of marginalizing the opponent by someone with absolutely no right or justification to express any condescension.

Its awesome watching Kynes reduce the lot of you to simpering fools. When the libs respond to well thought out, cleverly written posts with "Nuh-uh, you're stupid" or "You're just racist", it's a dead giveaway that they got nothing.

Dude the person who asked the question even stated that he misinterpreted what was said. He writes long but actually says ZERO. I'm I to assume that as long as a person writes a great deal you are impressed ???

 

[skunkd0c]

I just read this nonsense by Dr Kynes, what a pretentious individual, seems many of his posts are like this

the word grandiloquent springs to mind
lofty talk of little substance, propagating age old stereotypes laced with fancy rhetoric, how ironic lol

grandiloquent - lofty in style; "he engages in so much tall talk, one never really realizes what he is saying"

 

[Someacdude]

I just read this nonsense by Dr Kynes, what a pretentious individual, seems many of his posts are like this

the word grandiloquent springs to mind
lofty talk of little substance, propagating age old stereotypes laced with fancy rhetoric, how ironic lol

grandiloquent - lofty in style; "he engages in so much tall talk, one never really realizes what he is saying"

Yup and you just described everyone on my ignore list , get rid of them and enjoy the site, its much better this way

 

[Dr Kynes]

I just read this nonsense by Dr Kynes, what a pretentious individual, seems many of his posts are like this

the word grandiloquent springs to mind
lofty talk of little substance, propagating age old stereotypes laced with fancy rhetoric, how ironic lol

grandiloquent - lofty in style; "he engages in so much tall talk, one never really realizes what he is saying"

you would prefer i compose Twatter posts?

bumperstickers of 100 characters or less which leave too much to the reader's interpretation?

Brevity may be the soul of wit, but concise pithy comments are the enemy of precision.

leftism lives in the grey areas between the words, which is why even the simplest ideas are lost to the dogwhistles newspeak and "TLDR" complaints of small-minded dipshits who cant cope with any idea more complex than "It's The Other Guy's Fault"

dont like big words and prose which i admit may be a bit too punchy for you to handle?

Read The Cat In The Hat and go to your Happy Place.

i actually dont care what you think.

but thats probably too complex for you to figure out. here's the TLDR version, just for you:

 

[Canna Sylvan]

you would prefer i compose Twatter posts?

bumperstickers of 100 characters or less which leave too much to the reader's interpretation?

Brevity may be the soul of wit, but concise pithy comments are the enemy of precision.

leftism lives in the grey areas between the words, which is why even the simplest ideas are lost to the dogwhistles newspeak and "TLDR" complaints of small-minded dipshits who cant cope with any idea more complex than "It's The Other Guy's Fault"

dont like big words and prose which i admit may be a bit too punchy for you to handle?

Read The Cat In The Hat and go to your Happy Place.

i actually dont care what you think.

but thats probably too complex for you to figure out. here's the TLDR version, just for you:

Subtext is your nemesis; and on the nose a friend. It's not my fault others are retarded. Just get a new audience, instead.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Subtext is your nemesis; and on the nose a friend. It's not my fault others are retarded. Just get a new audience, instead.

actually i was under the impression that this was a forum, for the sharing of ideas and thoughts, but for the leftist cheerleader squad, its a platform for retreading the tired old slogans of The Great Society.

i suppose i could craft a message more palatable to the leftist hipster masses, but then i would be living a lie, the same lie they live while they conceal their hate behind a mask of compassion and over-wrought emotionalism.

 

[Dr Kynes]

It was awesome watching others changed their sig going against the FOG. Would you care to break down his meaningless dribble.


The questions was ..." What is the it that we are talking about that would have people able to do IT for themselves instead of welfare ...and his answer was



and your break down is ?????

even the most braindead reefer addict should be able to see through a haze of pot smoke that i was talking about WELFARE.

i see now (through this haze of pot smoke) that the interlocutor was asking what the american ideal should be but thats ridiculous, everybody want something different.

some might be content to lounge on the bottom of the economic scale smoking weed til they die in a freak microwaved burrito accident or finally discover the hereto-fore hypothetical lethal dose of ganja.

others want a life of hard work, and toil, building something which will last to pass on to their descendants

still others want a life of ease and luxury without any effort at all.

im terribly sorry* that my response to somebody else was too divergent from your expectations, and im deeply apologetic* that i caused you to think so hard to try and piece together the meaning of my plain and easy to understand statement.


























*no, i'm not.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

actually i was under the impression that this was a forum, for the sharing of ideas and thoughts, but for the leftist cheerleader squad, its a platform for retreading the tired old slogans of The Great Society.

i suppose i could craft a message more palatable to the leftist hipster masses, but then i would be living a lie, the same lie they live while they conceal their hate behind a mask of compassion and over-wrought emotionalism.

Subtext is definitely not your friend. I'll make it on the nose. The leftist masses won't change their mind, no matter what you say. Because then they risk actually taking sides and offending the fickle masses.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Subtext is definitely not your friend. I'll make it on the nose. The leftist masses won't change their mind, no matter what you say. Because then they risk actually taking sides and offending the fickle masses.

i believe that deep inside each and every rational person who is holding a leftist stance they secretly know that it is all based on horseshit.

when they get just high enough to let their inner voice out they may find themselves stunned by the realization that they really dont like the nonsense they are conditioned to accept as truth by the leftist establishment and social pressure.

thats my goal, to put the straight dope out there and maybe, just maybe a few lefties on the fence might see the truth for themselves and jump into the land of reality.

a long time ago somebody did that for me, so i hope maybe i can point the way for some lost sheep to wander back to the fold.

but some lefties are just too far gone. there's nothing left inside them but the poison and hate that leftism feeds on.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

i believe that deep inside each and every rational person who is holding a leftist stance they secretly know that it is all based on horseshit.

when they get just high enough to let their inner voice out they may find themselves stunned by the realization that they really dont like the nonsense they are conditioned to accept as truth by the leftist establishment and social pressure.

thats my goal, to put the straight dope out there and maybe, just maybe a few lefties on the fence might see the truth for themselves and jump into the land of reality.

a long time ago somebody did that for me, so i hope maybe i can point the way for some lost sheep to wander back to the fold.

but some lefties are just too far gone. there's nothing left inside them but the poison and hate that leftism feeds on.

Good luck with that mission. I'd rather rather stick a fork in a light socket. You'd actually illuminate them.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Good luck with that mission. I'd rather rather stick a fork in a light socket. You'd actually illuminate them.

yes, it is a thankless task, but i consider is a sacred duty.