Defoliate or not to defoliate

skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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hyroot said:
lies lies and argumentative bull shit. You attacked me... I didn't talk shit to anyone... learn to read your own posts cherry picker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you actually read my thread you would be giving me props.

Why are you such a hater? Do you need a hug?
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Nice font colours in your above post congratulations

you are not being attacked, that is rather dramatic, i would say you are being "audited"
when you make claims and "talk big" you have to be prepared for those claims to hold up to the scrutiny of others
i do not know why you are getting upset about it

hyroot said:
starting this thread opened a portal for the demon noobies...

defoliation = stunted growth , smaller yield, airy buds..

plenty of lush green leaves = big happy yield.

only pull leaves that are damaged

Any one who argues this is wrong and an idiot and needs to take botany and horticulture classes..
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Here is a reminder of your ignorant black and white attitude
where you clearly state anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot

hyroot said:
^^^^ I didn't mean to hurt your feelings but I disagree. from 14 years of experience.
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This is where you claim to have 14 years experience, below is the evidence to support that claim





If it has taken you 14 years to reach the pitiful standard you display on your thread and in the pictures above
you should not be surprised when folk scrutinize your outlandish claims
your plants are certainly not what i would call the picture of health, perhaps you just have low standards

peace
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Ok... I think it's time to let this thread die in peace... It's going nowhere quick.

If you aren't sure whether to defoliate, TRY IT FOR YOURSELF and form your own opinions.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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SpicySativa said:
Ok... I think it's time to let this thread die in peace... It's going nowhere quick.

If you aren't sure whether to defoliate, TRY IT FOR YOURSELF and form your own opinions.
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pretty much says it all , best post of the thread +rep
i do not promote these methods of pruning over others, i only promote experimentation
as i believe it is best that folk learn from themselves, as each persons environment and needs are not the same

unfortunately this type of debate which exists on many threads has been ruined from the start by black and white thinking and trolling

at one end of the spectrum we have uncleben at the other end of the spectrum we have sir ganja
this sir ganja fool was telling folk to cut all their leaves off, he was posting pictures of pathetic looking plants and claiming victory
between sir ganja's cut all the leaves off, and uncleben's cutting leaves off turns plants hermie, neither of these extreme positions are helpful
 
SeniorFrostyKush

SeniorFrostyKush

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See, skunkdoc is a troll who lives under a bridge somewhere in good ole' bloody England. And in good ole' bloody England, everyone cash crops. They grow nothing but big yielding, low potency, dutch strains, and call everything skunk. Do ye' know wha' a' mane'? (English accent) AHHH italicize is stuck.... Oh well. Any way, he defoliates because he thinks that's he's flooding light underneath the canopy. In his mind, he thinks.... more ligh' = bigga buds.(English accent) The idiot doesn't understand how the process of photosynthesis works. Yesterday I made a promise that I'd stop crushing these trolls, so I'm gunna have to bow outta this one. Seriously though, trolling is this guys thing, and he thinks that everyone's growing methods need to hold up to his scrutiny..... he doesn't understand how ignorant he is. Now he's probably going to post something correcting my spelling or grammar, or pointing out the obvious fact the my italicize button is stuck. Keep on ROLSin' hyroot, this dude aint even worth your time.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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SeniorFrostyKush said:
See, skunkdoc is a troll who lives under a bridge somewhere in good ole' bloody England. And in good ole' bloody England, everyone cash crops. They grow nothing but big yielding dutch strains, and call everything skunk. Do ye' know wha' a' mane'? (English accent) AHHH italicize is stuck.... Oh well. Any way, he defoliate because he thinks that's he's flooding light underneath the canopy. In his mind, he thinks.... more ligh' = bigga buds.(English accent) The idiot doesn't understand how the process of photosynthesis works. Yesterday I made a promise that I'd stop crushing these trolls, so I'm gunna have to bow outta this one. Seriously though, trolling is this guys thing, and he thinks that everyone's growing methods need to hold up to his scrutiny..... he doesn't understand how ignorant he is. Now he's probably going to post something correcting my spelling or grammar, or pointing out the obvious fact the my italize button is stuck.
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I have to say, i do not represent all English people
i grow many strains, including American Canadian dutch Australian, Spanish , land races etc
i do not have a problem with xenophobia, so when i choose a strain i choose it because i think i may like it
rather than the country of origin of the seed seller or breeder

It's a rather silly presumption to make that everyone in England cash crops
are you forgetting virtually all of the seed banks are based in the UK
it's very easy for folk here to buy seeds, they arrive in 2 days so folk grow a varitey of strains here
in fact i would suggest America is more obsessed with OGkush than the UK is with skunk
nothing you have said in your above post is based on any facts, you are just rambling
you're free to go through my threads and point out any errors if you wish
i am not afraid of scrutiny or debate

peace
 
hyroot

hyroot

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skunk is jealous of living organics, he cant grow soil or organic, control a fade , hates on anyone who doesn't use hps. So he has to stick to noobie chem hydro and prehistoric lighting. everyone else knows my plants yield big and are better quality than he could ever grow, hater needs a hug.. its funny how everone else disagrees with skunk and his alter ego woody

My first grow was outdoor little plants in my back yard when I was 17 in 1996, 2nd was a year later on the roof of my neighbors... 3rd was hydro and my first indoor in 2000. In 2003 I had to stop for a couple because because I got ratted out and busted. Started up again in 2 closets in a studio apartment after losing my house. After a few years switched to soil. A year after that I then moved to a larger apartment. was going good for a few years until my place was robbed. I stopped growing for a couple months. My buddy loaned me lights and gave me plants that were my own strains.

my northern lights # 5 x sfv og my friends brother made. my cheese berry kush i made raspberry cough x master kush and cheese og is raspberry cough x king louis Viii og. I made that cross too. My master og and master kush seedlings. My crosses too.


whats wrong with any of those pics... showing a living organics pot. plants that fade overnight from drying soil right before they are chopped and the other plants barely into flower. the frosty bud the size of a milk carton.... you are so jealous skunk... you are a joke. im done with this. i hope this thread gets locked

small ass fluffy buds with nute burns and deficiencies, mine are larger and denser at 3 weeks.....and healthier ,> you in know way have 20 years experience I call bull shit. My first hydro back in 2000 was produced better..... defoliating sure produces small buds there.





My grow looks far better than yours










 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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Hyroot we shall have to agree to disagree, because i think your plants do not look very nice
your plants to me look unhealthy they are very small low yielding,
the lack of resin visible on your plants is also an issue for me

can you post a picture of your plants that produce these huge colas at 3 weeks ?

This plant yielded 21.5 oz
your plants yield 3 oz
but of course size is not everything











personally i think these pictures look nice, but i guess you think differently

this pissing contest will have to come to an end quickly because i am aware that you have
about 20-30 pictures total of your plants, and you have already used your best ones LOL
in contrast i have 1000s spanning many years

peace
 
hyroot

hyroot

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I weigh my buds when they are dry not wet. 21 zips per batch maybe but not 1 plant indoor. The ones before i got robbed pulled a qper each at only 2 1/2 feet tall. I let the soil dry out completely the last week. They fade to yellow over night. Up until then they are lush green. The fade helps produce smoother and better tasting smoke. A fat bong rip and won't even cough. That smooth. Those were not my best pics. That was the point. There's better pics in my threads and journals.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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hyroot said:
I weigh my buds when they are dry not wet. I let the soil dry out completely the last week. They fade to yellow over night. Up until then they are lush green. The fade helps produce smoother and better tasting smoke. A fat bong rip and won't even cough. That smooth.
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I also weigh my buds dry not wet lol
we can like things that are different, i can accept that
i'm sure you are happy with your smoke, as i am mine that is all that matters

peace
 
Jumfrey13

Jumfrey13

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skunkd0c said:
My observations are different
i remove leaves at anytime during veg and flower should i feel that it benefits the overall garden for the reasons i have given already
since i will be growing plants close together, my plants tend to be large and produce a large number of leaves many overlapping on neighbor plants

i am not sure why you function in this world of absolutes "pruning should only be done during veg, nothing of the sort during flower"
that's such a stagnant way of thinking to me

although
an egg should only be boiled for 3 mins 30, never 4 mins, never ever, if you boil eggs for 4 mins, disruption of the space time continuum is imminent, you have been warned

peace
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I realized with some afghans I'm running, 3 weeks into flower that I let them veg too wild. I just printed off a bunch of leaves and I can see how they are receiving way more light. And by week 3 all those budsights I made need it; especially at the bottom! I agree with you doc, that pruning during flower is a game changer. It looks like im going to eliminate scragglies at the bottom.
 
Jumfrey13

Jumfrey13

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I think you heavily misinterpreted that statement. That poster meant bud sites. All new leaves start off as a bud site, then grow into a fan leaf.
 
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