Dlftmyers made me do it...Just awesome You give a great detail report I'm glad i subed on this one
Thanks Duck. I get a little quackers when my temps are off. See what I did there?Looking good in there man!
I suspected as much. It has his name written all over it. I'm going to miss Walt, man. "Our science is tight."Dlftmyers made me do it...
Thanks, krypt. Great question. Clone only strains are definately tougher to lay hands on. But, it's still possible. A lot of growers/breeders out there will actually do as you described, and happen upon a cut of something rare, then "self it" to add to their seedstock. "Selfing a plant" (pollinating a plant with it's own pollen) is essentially cloning a plant in that it will take on all of the mother's traits. It will not be identical in every way, however, but extremely similar. Some growers are very protective of their strains. Especially after having worked on them for years, and sometimes decades to get them stable, and delicious. Some, like me, want to get any work they do out there. Share what they've done.If you can self-polinate a female this way, why don't growers do it all the time on strains that are currently clone-only? Why not do as you detail, self-polinate and then grow from seed?
I'm really interested in God's Gift, which is clone-only.
Selfing a plant will not produce stable offspring unless it's from an already true breeding strain. The results are like what you would get crossing the clone with an extremely similar sibling. A few back crosses should get a reasonable approximation of the original clone in seed form but it will never be identical and in the case of truly exceptional parents you may have very good children on average but still need to pop a fairly large number of beans to get a plant as good as the original.Thanks, krypt. Great question. Clone only strains are definately tougher to lay hands on. But, it's still possible. A lot of growers/breeders out there will actually do as you described, and happen upon a cut of something rare, then "self it" to add to their seedstock. "Selfing a plant" (pollinating a plant with it's own pollen) is essentially cloning a plant in that it will take on all of the mother's traits. It will be practically identical in every way. Some growers are very protective of their strains. Especially after having worked on them for years, and sometimes decades to get them stable, and delicious. Some, like me, want to get any work they do out there. Share what they've done.
Fuck with her light schedule. Try and get your temps higher in the day, and lower at night. Or even up and down all day for a few days. Just keep her ventilation cranked up, and keep fluctuations between 55-85F and you won't kill her. If all else fails, you can crank some metal in the tent, periodically walk in and shake the shit out of her, then tell her she's a pathetic excuse for a plant, and that you've been cheating on her with her relatives.I've done everything possible to stress her out. Maybe I'll try emotional stress.
Thanks, Duck. That's worded better than my post. They will not be identical, but similar. I also forgot to mention BX'ing to gain stability. This is why clone only's are so expensive and rare. It takes work to produce a great strain.Selfing a plant will not produce stable offspring unless it's from an already true breeding strain. The results are like what you would get crossing the clone with an extremely similar sibling. A few back crosses should get a reasonable approximation of the original clone in seed form but it will never be identical and in the case of truly exceptional parents you may have very good children on average but still need to pop a fairly large number of beans to get a plant as good as the original.
Use silver, it actually works on a biochemical level. Silver thiosulfate works faster than colloidal silver or silver nitrate but pretty much any form of silver will work. Cannabis is pretty amazing at absorbing metals. I've wondered if adding the silver to the water would work better than a foliar spray. Next time I reverse a plant maybe I'll try watering one, spraying one and doing a combo of both to a third.I've been doing research on that silver stuff. Have a green crack mom that I threw outside. I have stressed the shit out of her. Let her dry up then doused with water way over ripe and nothing, Interrupted light cycle. Can't get those nanners to show up. The silver might work though.
Lol, I've done everything possible to stress her out. Maybe I'll try emotional stress say she looks fat and her sisters are doing better, hahaha.
They can be quite different as they're effectively F2 seeds when made from F1 plants.Thanks, Duck. That's worded better than my post. They will be almost identical, but not completely. I also forgot to mention BX'ing to gain stability. This is why clone only's are so expensive and rare.
I will PM you about that. I'm THAT interested in God's Gift. I had some in Cali not long ago with a friend who has a card for her hepatitis C and fibromyalgia. It's a nice body stone that's TOTALLY relaxing and anti-anxiety and pain killing. With some good laughs. Super nice, and would be a regular go-to strain for me if I can get it in seed. I grow only once a year and don't have facility to keep a mother plant alive the rest of the time. Seeds have to be the way for me to go right now.I can't post any links to any specific breeders, as that's against the rules here at RIU. No trading, buying, selling, or advertising. But, if you're curious about breeders that carry clone-only seeds, and cuts. Feel free to PM me.
I've read about God's Gift. Been dying to pick up a cut myself. It's GDP x OG Kush if I remember correctly. Great for pain relief. I have yet to find anyone with seeds or a cut. It would be a fucking awesome addition to anyone's collection. Especially if you the blue pheno. And for those like me, who have severely debilitating back and neck issues, it's said to alleviate some if not all inflammation, and sharp pain. A good trick to keeping a mother is to bonzai the shit out of her, and take a fresh cut off her lower branches, let her develop for at least 2 months, or rooting becomes an issue. Then just rinse and repeat.
I'm so happy I got the pheno I did. I know HSO has a few for the S1.... I was lucky. lol.Yours is extremely similar to my girl Stew.
The things we do for our ladies, man. You should post some shots of your BD momma sometime if you have the inclination, and time, man. Last time I saw her, she was really starting to take off.Makes my life easier when the plant will just do what I want it to instead of me bending to it's needs.