Man get a fucking life.
Why haven't African Americans assimilated into American culture...?
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UncleBuck
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that's racist because it makes kkkynes look racist for trying to push the line of tripe he was pushing.
UncleBuck
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also racist because it works against the narrative kkkynes is trying to establish, which is that black people are to blame for black people.Black people in America have had very limited exposure to higher education. As I've cited, up until recently, within 40 years, there have been universities that straight out would not accept black people. If black culture emphasized education as much as white or asian culture, you'd see similar scores on tests. People like KKKynes blame the lack of education black people have received on black people, and only black people.
The white people who have run the universities for centuries are completely guiltless in disallowing black people from attending, and white politicians are completely blameless for doing nothing to prevent discrimination.
The instant the civil right movement happened, every single black person should have stop fearing white people, (even though racism was still extremely prevalent) given up their established culture, given up on every tradition they were allowed to keep, and started going to universities, just like white people. KKKYnes will agree, black people only have themselves to blame for their culture.
Just like black tribal leaders in Africa created the demand for slaves in the new world. Must have been some crazy voodoo they were using to make all those white people demand more, and more slaves..... Must have been even crazier voodoo that made the white slave owners work their slaves so hard they just dropped dead. But again, must have been black peoples fault somehow.
Black people weren't allowed to vote, were treated sub-human, segregated, beat, lynched, killed, spat on, etc., etc., but gee-willakers the second white people 'allowed' black people a few privileges, they should have forgotten the previous 300 years, and embraced white culture with open arms.
not true..african warlords had their own slaves from overtaking competing tribes..blacks did enslave blacks in africa..now if warlords saw opportunity in human cargo..you have to ask yourself WWWD?..what would warlords do?
Slavery certainly existed in Africa already, but not anywhere near the extent to which it grew due to the immense European demand for slaves.
Dr Kynes
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Dr Kynes
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no, you refuted nothing.
did you know that serfdom is still not a voluntary condition?
Beefbisquit
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Cool (but inaccurate) story bro.
cool story bro.
New evidence suggests the Egyptians were volunteers, not slaves.
FreedomWorks
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Oh what? You don't like it when people pop in and take cheap shots at you?
But you do it all the time, so I can see how you fit right in with your establishment government buddies...
ChesusRice
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I knew
Just knew you were a stormfronter. I could tell by the way you started dipping your toe into the " how much overt racist tripe" can they handle pool
Dr Kynes
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no, new evidence is that SOME of the pyramid labourers were local farmers impressed into service in the off season. the stone cutters, masons cooks and other year round labourers were slaves.
even the local farmers didnt "Volunteer" for shit.
they were commanded, and they served under penalty of death, and in some cases as a form of taxation for the state.
remember pyramids arent built in a day, they span hundreds of years, and numerous dynasties.
some pharaohs may have been content to hire much of the seasonal labour, while others simply demanded what was heir right as God-Kings.
How about instead of a cartoon you say something? Did European demand for slaves from Africa not hugely increase the slave trade?
cool story bro.
See post #921
Harrekin
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Aww shit, son.
http://news.discovery.com/history/ancient-egypt/pyramids-tombs-giza-egypt.htm
There's about 40 other links btw
Dr Kynes
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european demand for ivory also increased the slaughter of elephants.
european demand for silk and lacquerware increased the production of silkworms and the deforestation of china
thats how markets work.superimposing your emotional baggage on this ONE market is as nonsensical as the PETA clowns calling beef cattle victims of a Bovine Holocaust.
GREED drove the slave market, and that GREED was not confined solely to the "europeans"
in fact what you MEAN to say is the european colonial enterprises in the new world, as african slaves were fairly uncommon in europe, due to their abundance of cheap labour in the form of the peasantry who could be worked cheaper than holding and keeping imported slaves.
the fact remains, without a supply of slave labour the market would never have developed, thus the onus for the slave trade falls once again on africans exploiting africans.
the native american population were poorly suited to ensalvement, as the entire idea was foreign to their culture, thus they were unable to comprehend the nature of the Master/Slave relationship and it's expectations. Africans, due to their long history and deeply ingrained acceptance of slavery, took to the shackle readily. the history of african slavery extends far beyond their interactions with europe, rome, or even the greeks.
your emotional desire to find somebody to blame for the development of a market and the exploitation of local resources to fill the demands of that trade is ridiculous when examined without the emotional baggage.
Protip: slavery is still a going concern in africa, particularly in moslem lands.
http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/04/modern-day-slavery-a-problem-that-cant-be-ignored/
http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/slavetrade.htm
http://abolitionmedia.org/about-us/modern-slavery-statistics
some estimates claim as much as 60% of the black non-moslem population in Sudan are held as slaves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Sudan
and all this without a single slave ship to the new world in the last 200 years.
Dr Kynes
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Aww shit, son.
http://news.discovery.com/history/ancient-egypt/pyramids-tombs-giza-egypt.htm
There's about 40 other links btw
and yet not a single shred of evidence suggesting that they WERENT slaves save their burial in a manner which seems inconsistent the assumptions of how the ancients treated their chattel.
but then, in ancient religions, even slaves had shades which could haunt their former masters if the priests didnt lay them to rest with the proper ceremonies and incantations.
even in the americas, where slaves WERE chattel, they were still buried as humans when they died, not simply cast on the rubbish tip or thrown in the bushes to feed the local wildlife.
specious reasoning is specious
unless they found a copy of their "Totally Voluntary W-4's" signed and dated, proving they were volunteers...
What part of my posts made you think I am emotional over this? I don't feel any guilt for slavery, I had nothing to do with it. And when I said European demand, I did not mean the slaves were going to Europe, but rather that the people colonizing America were European.
All that aside, nothing you said refutes my claim that slave trading was increased hugely due to the emergence of the transatlantic slave trade. That's all I said. Is it not true?
Edit: you also seem to think I blame europeans alone for the slave trade, but I don't. Supply and demand are both required.
Dr Kynes
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slavery increases when there is a demand for cheap expendable labour, which is whats going down in africa right now, despite shocklingly low demand in europe, or by "europeans" world wide for african slaves.
your insistence on blaming "europeans" for african slave trading clearly demonstrates some kind of emotional baggage, otherwise you would say "slave holders" or "slave markets" which would include slaves held by africans themselves, and the slaves held by moslems in moslem lands.
africans still happily enslave other africans, in HIGHER NUMBERS THAN EVER BEFORE, and the practice of enslavement continues today in moslem countries around the world, and is accepted by their governments and clergy under the assumption that all non moslems ("Kaffir") DESERVE to be enslaved for their sin of being non-moslem.
you insisted on focusing on europe and europeans to the exclusion of all else, and this smacks of agenda.
that agenda usually includes a great deal of "Blame Whitey" and a substantial "reparations" component
ChesusRice
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It seems like you didnt even read my post. I specifically said i didnt blame europeans, and had no emotional investment in what we're talking about. The reason I focused on the transatlantic slave trade is because that's what was being discussed.
You're bringing up things out of nowhere that have nothing to do with what I said. All I said was that the transatlantic slave trade hugely increased the sale of African slaves from what it previously was. You confirmed this when you said "slavery increases when there is a demand for cheap expendable labor." When Europeans introduced an immense new demand for cheap expendable labor, it lead to a huge increase in slave trading.
I am not making any of the arguments you think I'm making. I dont feel emotional about this, I'm not "blaming whitey", I'm not saying there were not plenty of slaves in Africa before Europeans brought in new demand, and I'm not claiming that slavery is not still alive and well. I said one thing.
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