What do Progressives Contribute to Our Country

[BaroqueObammer]

I never said it was called the "troll uncle buck group" but was started for that purpose... Reading comprehension limited means...

i'm telling you they only understand double speak. Obama is doubly plus good like a rapper so you gotta know the metaphors about what he is talking about like buck does.

 

[UncleBuck]

I never said it was called the "troll uncle buck group" but was started for that purpose... Reading comprehension limited means...

i saved quotes from that group, there was almost no mention of me.

white revolutions and holocaust denial were hot topics, however.

 

[UncleBuck]

i'm telling you they only understand double speak. Obama is doubly plus good like a rapper so you gotta know the metaphors about what he is talking about like buck does.

i'm trying to think back to remember what other members had a command of the english language on par with a retarded 2nd grader, like you have.

 

[BaroqueObammer]

i'm trying to think back to remember what other members had a command of the english language on par with a retarded 2nd grader, like you have.

still better than an urban 10th grader

 

[racerboy71]

i'm trying to think back to remember what other members had a command of the english language on par with a retarded 2nd grader, like you have.

sad thing is, there's too many to really narrow it down like that buck..

 

[echelon1k1]

i saved quotes from that group, there was almost no mention of me.

white revolutions and holocaust denial were hot topics, however.

I've asked you repeatedly to post any conversations I was involved with... You have them saved?

 

[UncleBuck]

sad thing is, there's too many to really narrow it down like that buck..

sad but true.

this sock puppet is not even amusing.

 

[burgertime2010]

Ah so you support a constitutional amendment then? Would you require that training be a paid class with a big gold star on it or would dad taking you hunting be permissible to your highness? Could these classes and the expense of determining who is mentally unstable or not come from the government teet cause that would only be fair right? Parolees ummm so a dude is on parole for growing a gurella garden or embezelling wall street (like they get caught) so now that dude doesn't have the right to defend himself because he grew weed or stole money? How much does it cost to pay those high society people that make such decisions as these and how does it affect available funds for social services does it add or subtract from them?

History of misuse or violent criminals on parole fuck em. You learned to drive and got a license because a car is dangerous.....so are guns. What is problematic with training? I am approaching it from a pretty centrist angle. If my sensibilities offend you so be it...it's a minor inconvenience and the way it already is.

 

[burgertime2010]

"Surrender" is an inapt metaphor, with its implication of the knowledge of the axis of morality. As long as you think you are a warrior of What is Right, you are your own worst enemy, and one of mine. Jmo.

I don't see how I am clearly wrong to you and yet what is right is not implied by you. I don't look to find anything beyond fairness....and that is a moral I suppose. Supporting a change for the better is not a choice, it is an inherent gravitas. Morality is not an ego-driven concept. You care about me caring....that I do not understand.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

History of misuse or violent criminals on parole fuck em. You learned to drive and got a license because a car is dangerous.....so are guns. What is problematic with training? I am approaching it from a pretty centrist angle. If my sensibilities offend you so be it...it's a minor inconvenience and the way it already is.

Cars are not in the constitution. Weapons are.

It's a priveledge to drive a car. It's a right to own a gun.

 

[ginwilly]

Cars are not in the constitution. Weapons are.

It's a priveledge to drive a car. It's a right to own a gun.

I bought insurance for my guns. Am I absolved of my sins now?

 

[burgertime2010]

Cars are not in the constitution. Weapons are.

It's a priveledge to drive a car. It's a right to own a gun.

A lot of modern inventions are not addressed in the constitution, a car is a weapon in reality however. The issue is safety and that is why laws exist. I have a respect for the right to bear arms but as time changes so does the responsibility to modernize...not guns only. In 250 years will this document keep up?

 

[ginwilly]

A lot of modern inventions are not addressed in the constitution, a car is a weapon in reality however. The issue is safety and that is why laws exist. I have a respect for the right to bear arms but as time changes so does the responsibility to modernize...not guns only. In 250 years will this document keep up?

As a constitutionalist, my friends give me grief when I say the 2nd needs to be amended. 250 years from now, it's not inconceivable that single shot nuke pistols or some other type of star wars weapon exists. If we are going to find alternative energy sources, we are going to find new and shiny weapons using those sources. The fact that the 2nd clearly states these rights shall not be infringed means each citizen will have a right to those weapons.

I'm not a fan of working around the constitution though, if we continue to do that, then no, the document will mean nothing. If we follow the amendment process, then the document is sustainable.

 

[burgertime2010]

Every one of our constitutional rights has legislation surrounding it. The process of amendment is constitutional as well....the right to vote this into law or to reject it is perfectly American and this freedom you choose to ignore. I can speak about this, but speech is not absolute when it endangers or hurts others right? So what is the issue? You have the right to own any arms?

 

[burgertime2010]

As a constitutionalist, my friends give me grief when I say the 2nd needs to be amended. 250 years from now, it's not inconceivable that single shot nuke pistols or some other type of star wars weapon exists. If we are going to find alternative energy sources, we are going to find new and shiny weapons using those sources. The fact that the 2nd clearly states these rights shall not be infringed means each citizen will have a right to those weapons.

I'm not a fan of working around the constitution though, if we continue to do that, then no, the document will mean nothing. If we follow the amendment process, then the document is sustainable.

I feel like this "chipping away" is a natural process and the infringement is not happening to just ask that a lethal object be used by people who know how to. It is an infringement to deny the public that safety. I am not a fan of hiding behind the constitution or working around it. When you define yourself as a constitutionalist you have to see that the reason behind it was to protect people and the laws, like them or not, are part of that freedom too.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

It says the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, not certain people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The founding fathers were smart as hell. They knew about crazy people back then too.

The public is safer from tyranny with guns, not without them.

 

[burgertime2010]

It says the people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, not certain people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The founding fathers were smart as hell. They knew about crazy people back then too.

The public is safer from tyranny with guns, not without them.

I see a support for the clinically insane as foolish in this instance, I see your point, but these are ideas that are laws already.....not my own. Training is my addition and a response to modern weapons, not muskets. The bazooka is illegal yet I don't feel less safe at all. You are living in the past, and it cannot hold up forever, one day the constitution will be obsolete and recognizing that might be healthy. Crazy, untrained, children, and violent offenders present a real risk compared to most gun owners...no? The democracy we are in allows for change through amendment. Guns actually harm more people than the protect and I am not anti-gun but don't talk safety.

 

[burgertime2010]

It seems that the ones who are 2nd amendment strict constitutionalists neglect to support the entire document...its usually about guns or self-interest and stubborn as hell. No offense intended.

 

[ChesusRice]

What do liberals bring to this country?

Freedom, liberty and equality.

 

[beenthere]

It seems that the ones who are 2nd amendment strict constitutionalists neglect to support the entire document...its usually about guns or self-interest and stubborn as hell. No offense intended.

One could say the same thing about progressives who are strict 1st amendment constitutionalists.
Most only respect the parts of the 1st amendment that suits them.