There is the convenience factor to take into account. I wouldn't call it a rip-off church. Convenience costs money, this is just a fact of life.
how's about dry nutrient ? I dont know what kind of system you have for grow...as for myself, I grow in the soilless pots. In past i had used GH, AN, MG nutes, DG etc. I decided to buy the reduced/clearance of GH's Maxi Gro for 12 dollars lbs bag (dry nutes) From seed to harvest, by this same Maxi Gro alone and still using this Maxi Gro for a long time more than Dyna Gro for save some bucks in my wallet if thats what you re looking for ?Where do you guys who make your own nutes go? I'm talking about buying the base salts and mixing them to certain ratios yourself. I'm using Dyna-Gro but i would like to switch for more freedom and cost savings.
Also does anyone have the density values of Dyna-gros products?
Yes i was referring to net weight. I am trying to use hydrobuddy to calculate my Dyna-Gro ppms but I add mls per gal and not grams so i am getting bad results with hydrobuddy.Cropking is one. Another is jacks. By density do you mean net weight and not fluid oz? Foliage-Pro and grow I have 44 oz/qt and pro-tekt I have 36 oz/qt .
Exactly my thinking. As soon as I'm done with my dynagro Im going to try to do homemade nutes, I currently mix ratios of the different dynagro products to acheive my N-P-Ks and other micronutrients instead of just diluting one, so it wouldn't be any less convenient for me.Agree, but just as a little kid starts off with a "my chemistry set", a toy, they should grow up and "get real" at some point in their lives and actually buy real chemicals.
I've used miracle grow, shultz, GH 3 part, ionic, triflex, BC grow/bloom/boost and various other brands, hydroponic based, and for soil. At some point I just couldn't stomach paying for diluted salts anymore.
It's a matter of moving on to bigger and better things.
It's simply inexcusable to me how large greenhouse operations could use diluted bottles of liquid to produce their crops. Get real guys.
Experts shouldn't need their hands held.
I thought DynaGro was cheaper than GH. But I'm trying to mix my own nutrients and not just some money.how's about dry nutrient ? I dont know what kind of system you have for grow...as for myself, I grow in the soilless pots. In past i had used GH, AN, MG nutes, DG etc. I decided to buy the reduced/clearance of GH's Maxi Gro for 12 dollars lbs bag (dry nutes) From seed to harvest, by this same Maxi Gro alone and still using this Maxi Gro for a long time more than Dyna Gro for save some bucks in my wallet if thats what you re looking for ?
have to remember every growers have different program of nutrients. All you have to do is expriement. Good luck.
Stay Medicated
Just curious but i spend $25 for a gallon of a+b so two gallons total. Im not sure i would save much as that last me approx 12 runs which is two years lol. Other than tweaking the mix would i really benefit? The guys i get it from will custom blend as well but im no were near that level yet, im just happy they dont die lol. Plants seem very happy so far!
It has the capability of benefiting the crop greatly assuming that you're making the "ideal" mix for your crop. This implies that you know your crop well enough to mix what it needs in the ratios needed throughout its life. So, basically, you'll buy a bunch of salts (by the pound) and you'll calculate the ratios you want, weigh out the amounts, and pre-prep (in bags, jars, whatever) your mixtures so you just have to scoop out the amount you're feeding. It requires more initial effort but you get the benefit of 1) being able to customize ratios on the fly instead of relying on any "additives/supplements" which may give more than what is needed (calmag+ gives you Nitrogen too for example, from the Calcium Nitrate used) and 2) not having to deal with a nutrient middleman that upcharges for the convenience of buying their premix fertilizer. So, in short, you cut out the middle man and get your nutrients from the source.I agree with you re additives but I have kept it pretty simple with no additives, just grow and bloom. And for the $50 bucks I spend for 2 years of nutes (both A and B included) I really doubt I will change for a bit. But am curious as to how much it could benfit the crop. I perhaps may try a few different ratios as far as the bud and bloom are concerned, as stated they will custom blend and they are local so I will be helping the economy at least lol. I guess I better start reading lol. Where it may be of benefit will be outdoors but I think organics are a better choice in soil so as not to fuck with the natural beanie's IMO. FYI never seen a bottle of calmag in my life lol.
Where is this double salt Calcium nitrate or is that just Ca(NO[SUB]3[/SUB])[SUB]2[/SUB]? I like the KOH addition you have does that keep your ph levels balanced? Do you mix your own micronutes too? I was thinking of using a micronute mix and supplementing mg with epsom saltsGreenhouse grade calcium nitrate from yara (double salt)
5Ca(NO[SUB]3[/SUB])[SUB]2[/SUB].NH[SUB]4[/SUB]NO[SUB]3[/SUB][SUP].[/SUP]10H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
Mono potassium phosphate
KH2PO4
Magnesium sulfate heptahydrate (epsom salts)
MgSO[SUB]4[/SUB]·7H[SUB]2[/SUB]O
Potassium nitrate
KNO3
Potassium Hydroxide
KOH
Those are the macros.
After that, you'll need something containing iron. I use iron sulfate, but chelated iron is much easier to work with in base solutions.
Download hydrobuddy if you don't already have it. It's a really great tool for making nutrient solutions.
I'm about to fall asleep now, or i'd post some specific recipes... Even experimentation without theory is enough to come up with a good mix (brute force until something works).
Try the Dirty formula yet?Hydroponic Research will make custom blends. I'm guessing if you buy enough, it could be worth while
I have been using their RO formula for > 1 years and love it
Try the Dirty formula yet?