I'm so High ........... that i think i see chemtrails

fdd2blk

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the 9/11 question is for real. i really want to know. it's puzzled me ever since. no one has ever really told me what it could have been. i guess any type of military plane? someone told me the other day but i forgot. it was just kinda spooky. the ski was quiet. then i heard the plane. at first i didn't give it a second thought. then i went "wait a minute. he's not supposed to be up there." that and it was a really big plane. looooong wings. waaay up high.



YouTube - Pink Floyd - Goodbye Blue Sky
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
the 9/11 question is for real. i really want to know. it's puzzled me ever since. no one has ever really told me what it could have been. i guess any type of military plane? someone told me the other day but i forgot. it was just kinda spooky. the ski was quiet. then i heard the plane. at first i didn't give it a second thought. then i went "wait a minute. he's not supposed to be up there." that and it was a really big plane. looooong wings. waaay up high.



YouTube - Pink Floyd - Goodbye Blue Sky
Thats pretty cool and damn interesting maybe even a little freaky. I guess you'll never know...probably aliens
 

SocataSmoker

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and while i have you here,.......:mrgreen:


it was some time shortly after 9/11. ALL airspace was closed. 0 flights were allowed over the US. i was outside having a smoke and looked straight up and saw a large white plane waaaaaaay up there. what was that???? :confused: :-?

thank you for your time. :mrgreen::peace:

Well scientifically contrails aren't forming in your area because of high heat, and super low humidity, air pressure... but a more common reason is today there just isn't any traffic flying above higher than 26,000ft above ya. As for the 9/11 thing... commercial air traffic was grounded for 3 days, military could of course fly anyday so you probably saw some sort of military aircraft. :blsmoke: Nothing to see here, move along, move along... :mrgreen:
 
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SocataSmoker

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I definitely believe you....theres no way 40 different flights go over my area in a perfect criss cross pattern.
Wanna bet? These charts can't even show the entire United States as there are way too many, but here are the routes we follow. If you pieced them all together it'd look like a unimaginable maze.

 

mexiblunt

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The only flights I heard about were the ones flying the saudis home. Where they all flew from I don't know. Best guess is military plane, wonder what would of happened if you would have called it in citing it must be terrorist cause there is not supposed to be planes in the sky.
Good bye blue sky is so fun to play on guitar when sittin around gettin high with friends everyone just chills...:mrgreen::peace:
It's not too terribly tough either have you ever tried to play it fdd?
the 9/11 question is for real. i really want to know. it's puzzled me ever since. no one has ever really told me what it could have been. i guess any type of military plane? someone told me the other day but i forgot. it was just kinda spooky. the ski was quiet. then i heard the plane. at first i didn't give it a second thought. then i went "wait a minute. he's not supposed to be up there." that and it was a really big plane. looooong wings. waaay up high.



YouTube - Pink Floyd - Goodbye Blue Sky
 

We TaRdED

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SoSmoker, whats the air pressure at 30-40k feet? Do you know a formula for different air pressures at different altitudes? Or you don't need to know that?

I'm a scuba diver, so I know sea level pressure(also known as 1 bar or 1 atmosphere) is equal to ~14.7psi. My guess would be that at 30-40k feet that the pressure would be ~4psi....:-|.......

Also, how do you think pressure effects contrails? Also, would 24 hours make a difference between seeing contrails and not seeing contrails(as FDD has described in his area). How quick and how much do the temps at cruising altitude(say 25-40k feet) change. I'm just wondering what the dynamics of the upper atmosphere are like/can be within a short period of time. Thanks :blsmoke:(I pay more attention to earths temps rather than 35k feet above my head).

Edit- whats the normal temps, @ cruising altitude, during the cycles of the year(I'm sure it depends on where you are flying though). For example, on land the average winter temps are 30 degrees, the spring is 65F, the summer is 80F and the fall is 60F. Is the upper atmosphere usually much colder than earths surface? Sorry for inundating you with all the questions.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~


From wiki........ Who knows how legit it is, I just copied and pasted it though.

The main products of hydrocarbon fuel combustion are carbon dioxide and water vapor. At high altitudes this water vapor emerges into a cold environment, and the local increase in water vapor can push the water content of the air past saturation point. The vapor then condenses into tiny water droplets and/or deposits into ice. These millions of tiny water droplets and/or ice crystals form the vapour trail or contrails. The energy drop (and therefore, time and distance) the vapor needs to condense accounts for the contrail forming some way behind the aircraft's engines. The majority of the cloud content comes from water trapped in the surrounding air.[citation needed] At high altitudes, supercooled water vapor requires a trigger to encourage deposition or condensation. The exhaust particles in the aircraft's exhaust act as this trigger, causing the trapped vapor to rapidly turn to ice crystals. Exhaust vapour trails or contrails usually occur at above 8000 metres (26,000 feet). where the temperature is below -40°C (-40°F).[1]
 
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fdd2blk

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to much haze from all the fires today. the ski is gold. i would think now would be the best time to spray. these damn forest fire put more into the air then a silly airplane.









 

SocataSmoker

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I do not know the exact air pressures for different altitudes as it is all based upon weather, height above sea level, and a bunch of factors that a pilot just doesn't need to be concerned about. The ATIS information we receive on the grounds tells us our barometric pressure, a "perfect" day reading would be 29.92inHG, or inch of mercury. Yes there are 2 formulas, the barometric formula... it looks like this:

This one is for when the value of standard temperature lapse rate is not equal to zero:



and this for when the standard temperature lapse rate does equals zero.



P = Static pressure (inches of mercury)
T
= Standard temperature (kelvins)
L = Standard temperature lapse rate (kelvins per foot)
h = Height above sea level (feet)
R
* = Universal gas constant (using feet and kelvins and gram moles: 8.9494596×104 kg·ft2·s-2·K-1·kmol-1)
g
0 = Gravitational acceleration (32.17405 ft/s²)
M
= Molar mass of Earth's air (28.9644 g/mol)

Copied that out of wiki, but I'm also looking at my private pilot manual which is written the exact same way, so no need for legitimacy here.

Very low air pressure causes the ice particles to subduct, meaning they would revert from vapor back into water.

Temperature's are always changing due to uneven heating of the earth's surface. These variations produce convective currents in which warm air rises and is replaced by the cooler, denser air. They can change extremely quickly depending on what weather is taking effect below, the jetstream, etc... the air just like the ocean with currents and waves, and depending on what is happening below, changes what is happening above. Your wiki article reference is spot on.
 

mexiblunt

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Socata ya wanna fly me over there? just tell me when to jump and I think I should be alright. The next chemtrail Fdd see's is me falling face first into his fish tub. lol.:joint:
 

SocataSmoker

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I've asked the boss already if I could take the plane away on a vacation and the immediate response was "NO!!!!", in a good, worried, father/son kinda way... but, who knows after a couple of drinks? :hump:
 

We TaRdED

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I went for my first plane ride less than a week ago!!! I loved it:mrgreen: I want to go on a trip to cali too. I got some of the finest exotics to smoke, SoSmoker:mrgreen:

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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