Is Obama too smart for the job of POTUS?

[sso]

As a semi distant observer. (Man living in iceland, a place sometimes called little america, though much policy is european.)

Obama seems the same as any other american president.

Meaning he says this and that, but his actions mostly follow in the tradition of past presidents actions.



The only difference about him is obama care. Something that anyone living in a country with social health care, thinks is a good thing.
We have all heard the horror stories from america, that 65% of bankruptcies happen because of insurance not having been enough or simply not having enough money from the start.

For being sick..

Heard of people having to choose which finger they wanted reattached when they had an accident. Simply because they could not afford the "service."


It is one of a few reasons why i would not want to live in the u.s.


Due to this, i am afraid that im going to have to conclude, that the reasons obama is so much bitched about, is because of racism. (And racism is probably one of the dumber things i know of.)

And due to that, i am forced to conclude, that the reason for so much bitching, is

Stupidity.

Obama is just another politician, the only remarkable thing about him is that he is the first non pink president of the u.s.
That and that he is trying to get people better healthcare.

Othervise he´s just another piece of shit in power.

 

[echelon1k1]

good thing i didn't.

you are absolutely obsesses with what you perceive to be black people taking what "belongs" to white people.



JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

actually, it was you who called black people voting for obama over hillary in the primaries "racist", so i took the opportunity to ask you if white people voting for hillary over obama were also guilty of racism.

it was at that point that you scurried away like the little cockroach you are.

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so when desert dude asks someone if they posted a comment from their "obamaphone" (see: reaganphone) during a simple policy disagreement, that's just totally not racist?

yep, got it.

you are a douche, kiddo.

good job on the KFC reference, your racial resentment...

And buck totally doesn't see racism in everything... moron...

 

[tokeprep]

good thing i didn't.

you are absolutely obsesses with what you perceive to be black people taking what "belongs" to white people.

If you think that you're incapable of recognizing reality. But we already knew that, didn't we? You're more interested in partisan narratives than you are in reality.

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

actually, it was you who called black people voting for obama over hillary in the primaries "racist", so i took the opportunity to ask you if white people voting for hillary over obama were also guilty of racism.

it was at that point that you scurried away like the little cockroach you are.

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My goal was to match your rhetoric and to identify the inconsistencies in your claims. The skew in the black vote for Obama was greater than the skew in the white vote against Obama, thus it would seem the black vote was "more racist" than the white vote. That seems to be the logical conclusion of your own arguments, and yet you refused to make it. I sought to expose your hypocrisy in making claims about racism and I succeeded.

Underscoring that point, you repeated your claim that Obama's success in 9 of the 10 whitest states in the union propelled him to the nomination even though I had already observed that the whitest states in the union were some of the least populous and least delegate rich, making your claim statistically impossible. Sweeping the whitest states was worth far fewer popular votes and delegates than sweeping the blackest states.

Would you like me to work out the math to demonstrate this inarguable reality? Because you're going to feel really stupid for making such an indefensible, bullshit claim if I do.

so when desert dude asks someone if they posted a comment from their "obamaphone" (see: reaganphone) during a simple policy disagreement, that's just totally not racist?

yep, got it.

you are a douche, kiddo.

When someone mentions "Star Wars" or suggests that Reagan already had Alzheimer's while he was president, in response to a simple policy disagreement, is it racist? When someone says something disparaging about Bill Clinton getting blowjobs during a simply policy disagreement, is it racist? When someone says thousands of Americans died for Halliburton's profits in Iraq, is it racist?

Asking if you posted a comment from your "Obamaphone" is disparaging the existence of a government program to provide free cell phones to people and Obama's willingness to shower the money of taxpayers on those people, not a commentary on Obama's race, just as every other nasty thing said about any past president had nothing to do with race.

 

[UncleBuck]

I would challenge you to answer that buck

my answer: not obama

 

[echelon1k1]

We have all heard the horror stories from america, that 65% of bankruptcies happen because of insurance not having been enough or simply not having enough money from the start.

So they reward said companies by making the American people purchase one of their plans? good call...

I bet wall street saw the bailouts as punishment for all their risk taking...

 

[UncleBuck]

Asking if you posted a comment from your "Obamaphone" is disparaging the existence of a government program to provide free cell phones to people

which never happened until a black president got into office.

i know you were not even born or only a few years old, but how many times did you hear someone disparage "reaganphones"?

and Obama's willingness to shower the money of taxpayers on those people

those people?

ya mean, the people who took your spot at ITT tech?

 

[sso]

So they reward said companies by making the American people purchase one of their plans? good call...

I bet wall street saw the bailouts as punishment for all their risk taking...

I was talking about personal bankruptcies, not business. I kinda doubt wall street has problems with money towards healthcare for themselves.

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[ChesusRice]

I was talking about personal bankruptcies, not business. I kinda doubt wall street has problems with money towards healthcare for themselves.

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One of the early dog whistle attacks on Obamacare is that "those" people will be able to see YOUR doctor

 

[echelon1k1]

I was talking about personal bankruptcies, not business. I kinda doubt wall street has problems with money towards healthcare for themselves.

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Probably the language barrier, English no so common...

 

[sso]

One of the early dog whistle attacks on Obamacare is that "those" people will be able to see YOUR doctor

Im not following that line of thinking, can you explain?

 

[sso]

Probably the language barrier, English no so common...

It is possible, english is not my native language and even among english speakers, different phrases and ways to say things are different.

 

[tokeprep]

which never happened until a black president got into office.

i know you were not even born or only a few years old, but how many times did you hear someone disparage "reaganphones"?

Obama's name got attached to it because he was president, not because of his race. Hillary Clinton's name got attached to "Hillarycare" because she was in charge of it, not because of her race. This kind of thing happens constantly. Suggesting that it's about race ignores every disparaging nickname for a person or a program that was leveled at any other president.

those people?

ya mean, the people who took your spot at ITT tech?

Let me help you out here: "...the existence of a government program to provide free cell phones to people and Obama's willingness to shower the money of taxpayers on those people..." "Those people" = the people with government-subsidized cell phones referred to earlier in the sentence. There is no commentary whatsoever about race.

 

[UncleBuck]

Obama's name got attached to it because he was president, not because of his race.

yet we still call them the ""bush tax cuts", even though obama is president.

but when it comes to something remotely welfarish sounding, obama's name gets attached and it is somehow aa problem, even though it never was when reagan started it.

you are an idiot, kiddo.

go back to inventing stories about how admissions told you the exact race and SES of the other applicant who took your spot.

 

[tokeprep]

yet we still call them the ""bush tax cuts", even though obama is president.

You're handing me a perfect example. Because Bush was the president when the tax cuts were first signed into law, his name will forever be connected with the specific tax cuts he made, even though they were supposed to sunset after 10 years. When people are critical of those specific tax policies, they disparage them as the "Bush tax cuts" even though Obama extended many of those cuts. It happens all this time in this very forum! How is that any different from someone disparagingly referring to "Obamaphones?" It isn't.

but when it comes to something remotely welfarish sounding, obama's name gets attached and it is somehow aa problem, even though it never was when reagan started it.

you are an idiot, kiddo.

go back to inventing stories about how admissions told you the exact race and SES of the other applicant who took your spot.

Again, disparagingly referring to the "Bush tax cuts" that Obama signed back into current law doesn't make much sense either. Yet people do it and it has nothing to do with race.

 

[NoDrama]

Why does everyone think bankruptcy is such a bad thing? Its not like you lose your stuff or anything.

If you are going bankrupt because you can't pay your medical bills, its because you haven't worked out a payment program with the administration. They would be way more willing to get SOMETHING from you than have you declare bankruptcy and they get little to nothing. I think my mother payed $7 a month to the hospital for 12 years to pay for my birth.

 

[see4]

Why does everyone think bankruptcy is such a bad thing? Its not like you lose your stuff or anything.

If you are going bankrupt because you can't pay your medical bills, its because you haven't worked out a payment program with the administration. They would be way more willing to get SOMETHING from you than have you declare bankruptcy and they get little to nothing. I think my mother payed $7 a month to the hospital for 12 years to pay for my birth.

Oh shit. I see what this is.. some of you actually have had a tough life. Shit. I feel like such a douche now. My bad NoDrama, I didn't realize you had hard financial times. I honestly have never known what that's like.

 

[echelon1k1]

I honestly have never known what that's like.

if that was true you wouldn't vote democrat

 

[see4]

if that was true you wouldn't vote democrat

lol. who said I did? im only trolling you guys because you are racist. i never said i vote democrat.

besides that, what you just said is beyond foolish. i know plenty of people who are much better off than me who vote democrat. but to your point i know more that are more well off that vote republican. mostly because they are greedy.

 

[echelon1k1]

but to your point i know more that are more well off that vote republican. mostly because they are greedy.

OMG... He can read between the lines, there is hope for you after all stalky...

 

[see4]

OMG... He can read between the lines, there is hope for you after all stalky...

I did so much coke in college, whenever someone says read between the lines, i sniff my nose.