BHO Yield Comparison: Fine Ground Blender Buds Vs. Lightly Hand Broken Up Buds

[BCOGYODA]

A comparison of running butane extracted BHO with fine blender buds vs lightly broken up buds.

-Used the exact same crop of Kush buds
-used the same glass extraction tubes
-packed the tubes with the same procedure and pressure.
-used the same number of filters
-used the same amount of butane per ounce of bud
-used frozen butane and frozen bud
-weighed everything with digital gram scale

Objective was to find out:

1. which will yield more oil? Using: fine ground blender bud or lightly broken up small pieces of bud in the same size extraction tube?
2. will the produced oil differ in color, smell, or texture made from fine ground vs lightly broken up small pieces of bud?
3. will running blender fine ground buds allow me to process more bud in a quicker amount of time than using the lightly broken up small pieces of bud?

The First Run Of Fine Ground Blender Buds
Ran 2 Extraction Tubes of 300 grams: 9 Cans of Butane Per Extraction Tube
Total of 600 grams

Frozen Butane And Frozen Tubes:

Did This Twice:

After Air Purging Overnight:

Scraped Onto Parchment:

In The Chamber For De-Muffining:

Folded Up Muffin And Weighed 151.9 gr - 7.7 gr Parchment =144.2 gr Post Muffin:

After Vac Purging for Hours It Settled Down And Lost 12.6 gr Weight:

Several Hours Later It Waxed Up Nicely And Lost A Bit More Weight 131.6 plus 3 Grams Scraps On Paper=134.6 Gram Total

Nice Golden Sand Color:

Super Dank Honeycomb!

^^^ This First Run Yielded 22.44% ^^^






The Second Run: The Lightly Broken Up Buds
Ran One Tube Of 185 grams With 7 Tubes Of Butane

Lightly Broken Up Into Very Small Pieces Of Bud-No Blender Or Cutting

Packed Tube With Same Procedure and Pressure As First Run:

Ready To Blast:

Used 7 Tubes Of Butane:

After De-Muffining Weighed 46.9 gr- 6.1 gr Parchment = 40.8 grams

After Vac Purging For Awhile:

After Several Hours More It Waxed Up Nicely To A Nice Blonde Sandy Color:

Nice Honeycombing Like The First Run:

Final Weight Was 35.3 Plus 1.3 gr Scraps On Paper = 36.9 gr

^^^ This Second Run Yielded 20% ^^^

My Conclusions:

1. Finely ground buds in a blender = higher yield than lightly broken up small pieces of buds by hand with no cutting or grinding

2. There was NO difference in color, smell, or texture of the honeycomb with either batches.

3. I can load way more finely ground blender buds in my extraction tubes than lightly broken up buds which will enable me to run much more product in way less time. I can fit 300 grams of fine ground bud in my tubes and only 185 grams of lightly hand broken up buds in the same tubes. And that's using the same packing procedure and pressure in the tubes. That is 62% more material I can process in the same amount of time resulting in the same quality of product.

Final Conclusion: I will always run finely ground blender buds in frozen tubes with frozen butane.
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[BCOGYODA]

WTF!? Why won't the pictures show up? They were there when I made the post and previewed it before I hit "submit" Now they are not showing up?

 

[nme]

How fine did you grind it up exactly? I use to grind everything up but I thought it was making a darker end product.

 

[BCOGYODA]

How fine did you grind it up exactly? I use to grind everything up but I thought it was making a darker end product.

Hey nme are my pics showing up on the original post? All I see is little blue boxes with question marks..wtf! I post my pics exactly the same way every time??

I grind them up in a blender quite fine. The very first picture shows how fine they are but don't know why the pics aren't coming up?????

 

[BCOGYODA]

Google's service certificate or some BS like that was breaking the link to the pictures...used firefox direct to pics and they uploaded..

So after running the ground material I spread it all out on a sheet and went over it for about 30 mins with a 30x USB microscope to see if any resin heads were still in tact and missed on my extraction.

Picture under microscope of buds before extraction:

Another picture of buds under microscope before extraction:

Picture of ground material after extraction:

3 Pictures of material after extraction under microscope Note there's no fully intact resin heads; all just resin head stocks (thanks Fadedawg for the insight to do the microscope thing!! No need to re run any of this material!

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[Twitch]

wish i could +rep you, where did you get that tube?

 

[qwizoking]

Nice trich pic..yummy

Looks like one of the tubes smokeshops carry

I will say the second run looks a lot nicer to me

 

[blackforest]

Awesome write up. Very informative. Thanks for all the great info, answered quite a few questions I had myself.

 

[Dogenzengi]

I feel a little, glass envy, mine is only for 14 grams,

I am looking forward to blowing all the sugar leaf and airy nug on my plant,
I'm at day 50 of Flower and chewing my fingernails waiting for it to start to show any amber Trichs.

Can I run BHO THRU wet fresh / material?

If so do you just grind and freeze or freeze then grind?

I hope to have enough material to do at least two runs, about 1 0z.

 

[qwizoking]

I only run fresh frozen
I find a big difference..but that's just me

 

[Dogenzengi]

A few bud pix, day 50!

The long bud on the left side is 7 inches and is about 4" dia.

the 8 inch bud on the right is about 2 1/2" dia.

the low 6 inch bud is about 2 1/2" in dia.

The big bud above the screen is My "Holy hand grenade" it's rock hard about 6 in dia. At the bottom 7+" tall.

the screen has 20 plus Vertical buds!

 

[BCOGYODA]

wish i could +rep you, where did you get that tube?

Thanks Twitch! A local glass blower Justin Thatcher in Vancouver makes them. Local head shops sell them. Same glass as Pyrex is made out of; Borosilicate. Very strong. I only broke the tip on one of them so far which he makes separate from the tube so I bought extras at $8 a pop.
I have 4 of his large tubes now and one smaller one. Love them!

Nice trich pic..yummy

Looks like one of the tubes smokeshops carry

I will say the second run looks a lot nicer to me

Might be the lighting in the pics from that shop but they are pretty much identical other than the larger slab has more honeycomb air holes in it due to the thickness of it.
I break pieces off to make 1 oz jars and with both runs in the same jars I can't tell the difference which is which.

Awesome write up. Very informative. Thanks for all the great info, answered quite a few questions I had myself.

You're welcome man my pleasure. Literally lol

I feel a little, glass envy, mine is only for 14 grams,

I am looking forward to blowing all the sugar leaf and airy nug on my plant,
I'm at day 50 of Flower and chewing my fingernails waiting for it to start to show any amber Trichs.

Can I run BHO THRU wet fresh / material?

If so do you just grind and freeze or freeze then grind?

I hope to have enough material to do at least two runs, about 1 0z.

Right on Dog! I would freeze then grind but with fresh stuff I don't know if I would recommend grinding too finely. I ran fresh frozen stuff but I think my machine processed trim fucked my oil up. I'm gonna do a new batch of hand trim vs machine trim comparison very soon and will post up my results. Should be ready off the racks in a couple of days.

 

[Fadedawg]

We reduce our material that we extract oral oils from, to 10 mesh for a packing density of about 4.2 grams per cubic inch, but just lightly break up the material that we extract for bragging rights vaporization material.

 

[Guzias1]

I'm gonna do a new batch of hand trim vs machine trim comparison very soon and will post up my results. Should be ready off the racks in a couple of days.

looking forward to this one. awesome notes though. i may need to get myself a dedicated electric grinder.. want to see them trim pics! grind the trim really well on that next batch, compared to regular trim batch.
you da man

 

[nme]

That's some blonde hash for being ground up! I'm trying to remember if I was freezing my material when I tried ground up bud. I don't think I was at the time.

How long do you leave the blender on for? I might have to try this later today.

Good job on your product!

 

[BluJayz]

Looks good, + rep. (if I could give it again)

I do agree the second batch is more aesthetically pleasing. To me your results say time>quality; instead of having to unpack and repack the tube for a second run you can just grind it and run it once. I do think fade will say that grinding up the plant matter will allow for more lipids and chlorophyll to be absorbed. (Might that have contributed to the weight?)

Fun fun

 

[Guzias1]

these look exactly the same.... reallly REALLLYY GOOD

you took the pictures with different lighting, areas, etc.. can you get two chunks side by side in picture? and get completely identical chunks, we should have a guessing game before you tell us which one is which though :]

 

[BCOGYODA]

looking forward to this one. awesome notes though. i may need to get myself a dedicated electric grinder.. want to see them trim pics! grind the trim really well on that next batch, compared to regular trim batch.
you da man

Hey Guz I am using a blender now. I was using the coffee grinder but it was too small and now I wanna try a food processor because with the blender I am poking the buds around to get them to all get down to the bottom of the blender to get ground out. I think the food processor might be even better for this.

I think my last batch of trim run turned out darker because I ground it right off the racks. Don't think I froze it then ground it up.
I'll make sure everything is good and frozen before I do the trim run. I think it makes a big difference in not letting the plant material leak out any moisture and chlorophyll etc.

That's some blonde hash for being ground up! I'm trying to remember if I was freezing my material when I tried ground up bud. I don't think I was at the time.

How long do you leave the blender on for? I might have to try this later today.

Good job on your product!

Ya man I think it HAS to be frozen pre-grinding. Think it makes a big difference. The blender grinds it really quick. Only a few seconds with some poking of the buds to get them down into the chopping blades. Like I mentioned above though; I think a food processor might do an even better quicker job of it. Gonna try and sneak the wife's processor out to give it a try

Looks good, + rep. (if I could give it again)

I do agree the second batch is more aesthetically pleasing. To me your results say time>quality; instead of having to unpack and repack the tube for a second run you can just grind it and run it once. I do think fade will say that grinding up the plant matter will allow for more lipids and chlorophyll to be absorbed. (Might that have contributed to the weight?)

Fun fun

Thanks BluJayz! I think deep freezing the product before grinding really helps not let plant juices etc out.

these look exactly the same.... reallly REALLLYY GOOD

you took the pictures with different lighting, areas, etc.. can you get two chunks side by side in picture? and get completely identical chunks, we should have a guessing game before you tell us which one is which though :]

LOL ya that's a good idea but it is all broken up and put into 1 oz jars now. I can see if I can tell the difference of two pieces in a jar and get a pic but not sure if I'll be able to tell other than the bigger slab has thicker pieces so I should be able to tell that way. I'll check tonight when I'm playing around in there again.

 

[BCOGYODA]

Here ya go Guz!

 

[Guzias1]

Nice. Right on!

I'm gonna call bs. It's a trick. They are same chunks from same batch.