Guns. Why should they be given up?

see4

see4

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NLXSK1 said:
If you think the USA was the only country that was involved in slavery you are horribly misinformed as well.

Do you know that hundreds of years before the white men showed up the indians were constantly at war with each other? One of the primary reasons for war was to take prisoners to use as slaves. There is still slavery going on in countries today.

Yet somehow, something that was outlawed long before anyone here and their parents were born is still thrown in our faces...

But we all know you are a puppet troll so *waves*
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So this makes it ok? Is your explanation reasoning for you to think slavery is justified?
 
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LIBERTYCHICKEN

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Dr Kynes said:
cant reload steel cases, but you can reload chromed brass cases, use a magnet to weed out the steel ones.

you also cannot reload aluminium cases (cci blazer mostly).

to reload you need:

Tumbler (to clean the brass) ~$50
Press :~$50-$250 depending on how elaborate you want to be
Scale : ~$20 for a good digital or more for a triple beam or razor fulcrum model (mechanical ones are best, but digital is ok)
Micrometer: ~$15 at any automotive tool store
Dial Caliper: ~$10
Shell holding blocks (i use old shell holders from my .45ACP factory ammo)
Priming tool: ~$20 (i use the Lee Primer)

an assortment of powders and a supply of primers and bullets for the cartridges you intend to reload

you can get the equipment for less than $200 and youll save that much by the time you make 500 rounds.

Protips:
set up your reloading press on a sturdy table or toolbench, youll be pulling that lever a lot, and it will break ordinary tables and shit to pieces
locate your reloading bench in a place where it will not be disturbed by traffic (anyplace near the front or back door sucks, youll have groceries, books tools, and all manner of crap all over your area, try the garage or basement)
do NOT place your reloading area on carpet. i blew up 2 vacuum cleaners that way before i figured out that small amounts of powder were getting into the rug... tile linoleum or cement are your friends.
measure your powder carefully, dont trust automatic powder dispensers
an orderly system makes it easy:
clean-resize-trim-deburr all brass, sort them into loading blocks, (i put em in upside down until im ready to charge each case) then measure powder into each case, one at a time, and immediately cap it with it's bullet, when all cases are charged, seat all the bullets, then switch to the crimping die, and youre finished.

keep good records.
you dont want to make a load that works really good in your rifle and then not know which recipe you used.
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Actually you can reload Steel and Alu.

the only differences in the cases are the primer holes box/berdine , Bolth types are sold openly and bolth can be adapted to accept the other in less than ideal situations

With the steal cases expect the life of your die's/trimmer's to be shorter
 
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NoDrama

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see4 said:
So this makes it ok? Is your explanation reasoning for you to think slavery is justified?
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He was refuting the statement that ONLY the US and African nations were involved in slavery. He wasn't trying the fallacy of appeal to popularity that you accuse him of.
 
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NoDrama

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Dr Kynes said:
when i shoot my cousin's .75 caliber is that bad too?



yep... you heard me. .75 caliber.

.50 sounds a little more reasonable now doesnt it?
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BB guns have more muzzle velocity than that smooth bore land pattern flintlock musket. whats the max range on that? 200 yards? Lotta smoke when you shoot that thing. Definitely not an anti material weapon like the m2 .50 cal round.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
NoDrama said:
BB guns have more muzzle velocity than that smooth bore land pattern flintlock musket. whats the max range on that? 200 yards? Lotta smoke when you shoot that thing. Definitely not an anti material weapon like the m2 .50 cal round.
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Sometimes material is the enemy. :mrgreen:
 
Red1966

Red1966

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Dr Kynes said:
theres only one reason i might give up any of my guns, and thats to trade up for Blasters, Phasors, Disruptors (Romulan or Klingon), Light Sabers, Gauss Rifles, Plasma Casters, or a Giant Robot with Aguyama Missiles, and an autofire Laser Cannon.
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Get the Romulan disruptor. The Klingon disruptors have shorter range and can be easily defeated with a mirrored coating.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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El Tiberon said:
Your constitution was written by men who owned brown people and made their fortunes from their sweat. Fuck your founders and your constitution. It was allowed only by the blood of those you enslaved.
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Funny, I was about to say the same thing about Columbia!
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
Actually you can reload Steel and Alu.

the only differences in the cases are the primer holes box/berdine , Bolth types are sold openly and bolth can be adapted to accept the other in less than ideal situations

With the steal cases expect the life of your die's/trimmer's to be shorter
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aluminium cases break rather than resize, and then you have to disassemble your die to get the bits out.

steel cases BREAK carbide dies, and more often than not, crack during resizing, plus you cannot trim them to reduce the stretch, and they often crack when crimping.

so no, you cannot reload steel cases or aluminium cases unless you love wasting time and breaking dies to get ammo that will rupture when fired.

note also, some cases, even when made of brass simply are not worth reloading (example: "Balloon Head" .45 colt cases, cases which have been fired with corrosive powders and primers, or cases which have been heated and quenched to "temper" them)
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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D619 said:
Agreed, bravo! Go on a shooting spree and the media will make you famous!
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Unless of course it's a government sanctioned shooting spree known as "war". Then it's okay because, "the good kind of government" never gets anything wrong. Never.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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Dr Kynes said:



does your mom do your laundry too?

dude.

load your own, and you can tailor your loads to your individual guns.
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Oh that was funny...

If it wasn't for the fact my father owns a gun store and is set up to reload just about anything, I would probably have reloading tools already...He is a gunsmith/gun salesman/custom reload guy...He would give me a hard time if I didn't need him to do things for me...It would be something I would like to do, I just don't want to hurt his feelings for now...And for now my wife is really good at laundry....But I know what you mean about loading your own ammo...
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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El Tiberon said:
Your constitution was written by men who owned brown people and made their fortunes from their sweat. Fuck your founders and your constitution. It was allowed only by the blood of those you enslaved.
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Ummm, you should really consider returning to that shithole named Colombia if you don't like it here.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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nitro harley said:
Oh that was funny...

If it wasn't for the fact my father owns a gun store and is set up to reload just about anything, I would probably have reloading tools already...He is a gunsmith/gun salesman/custom reload guy...He would give me a hard time if I didn't need him to do things for me...It would be something I would like to do, I just don't want to hurt his feelings for now...And for now my wife is really good at laundry....But I know what you mean about loading your own ammo...
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when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, youll wish you had your shit together.

plus before long the lefties will figure out that their attempts to end ammo sales aren't working so they may try to ban powder, presses and lead.

get em while you can..
 
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