No I don't and can't believe anyone could.
Do you see a difference between a state in the bible belt mandating liquor sales restrictions on Sundays and the federal government making it nationwide?
Have you enrolled in AHCA and what was your experience?
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Do you see a difference between a state in the bible belt mandating liquor sales restrictions on Sundays and the federal government making it nationwide?
greenlikemoney
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Well, if you will listen to those people who implemented it in THEIR STATE, you would realize that STATES running a healthcare program is FAR different than the FEDS trying ( with great emphasis on the word TRYING ) to run a healthcare program. Right now, they are batting around ideas on how to fix this debacle, and the MAJOR sticking point comes to an ugly head because the STATES have invested to much to backtrack. Why? Say what you want, this debacle is squarely on the POTUS and the Dems who followed him blindly into the abyss. Why do you think the POTUS had to meet with 15 congressionals last week? Because every single one of them is up for re-election and they are feckin' scared poopless because this thing is a debacle that is crashing and burning before their very eyes AND they have to go home and face torch-wielding villagers....Happy Holidays? NOT !!!!
diet coke
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106,000 have signed up so far , only 6.9 million to go lol Wait 5 million plans have been canceled, so there are more unensured now than before the O'care was put in place.
Now if they can just get 18-35 year old to sign up and pay for the program(never happen) then the tax payer would be off the hook.
Democrats scramble to cover there ass in next election. How do people continue to support this president? What happened to biden lol they must have sequestrated him lol
Now if they can just get 18-35 year old to sign up and pay for the program(never happen) then the tax payer would be off the hook.
Democrats scramble to cover there ass in next election. How do people continue to support this president? What happened to biden lol they must have sequestrated him lol
UncleBuck
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that is literally the most retarded thing i have read in weeks and months.
ChesusRice
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How many plans got canceled every year before the implementation of Obamacare?
This can't be!
UncleBuck assured us all that the democrats running in next elections will be running on the Obamacare platform.
Zero policies were canceled because of government meddling in healthcare prior to Obamacare, indisputable fact!
ChesusRice
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Hardly anyone signed up for medicare part d the first months it rolled out
hardly anyone signed up for Massachussetts plan in the initial months it rolled out
hardly anyone signed up for Massachussetts plan in the initial months it rolled out
UncleBuck
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you may have just one upped greenlikemoney on the mental retardation factor.
ChesusRice
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AP's Kristen Wyatt reported yesterday:
And really, folks, likening the sale of health insurance to muffins is just an insult to your intelligence.
- See more at: http://coloradopols.com/diary/50671/yes-trolls-the-insurance-exchange-is-working#sthash.JtSkP1fO.dpuf
Officials with Connect For Health Colorado said 226 people have signed up for insurance using the exchange, for a total of 305 people getting coverage. That's the tally from the exchange's first week, Oct 1-7.
It's a smaller number than reported in other states running their own exchanges. Kentucky, for example, had more than 18,000 people signed up by Oct. 9, and tiny Rhode Island had 580 signed up by Oct. 3…
Republicans were predictably quick to jump all over on this "failure."It's a smaller number than reported in other states running their own exchanges. Kentucky, for example, had more than 18,000 people signed up by Oct. 9, and tiny Rhode Island had 580 signed up by Oct. 3…
A Republican critic of the new health care law, U.S. Rep. Cory Gardner of Yuma, said Colorado numbers are an embarrassment given how much the state spent marketing and explaining Connect For Health Colorado. Gardner cited ads at Denver Broncos games and TV campaigns.
"Look, if you spent $21 million on a bake sale and sold 10 dozen muffins, that would be a complete disaster," Gardner said. [Pols emphasis]
Except, as FOX 31 reports, the lowball figure of Coloradans who have actually completed a purchase of health insurance in the first week of operation of the insurance exchange isn't the whole story:"Look, if you spent $21 million on a bake sale and sold 10 dozen muffins, that would be a complete disaster," Gardner said. [Pols emphasis]
Connect for Health Colorado, the marketplace associated with the federal Affordable Care Act, saw 162,941 unique visitors during the period between Oct. 1 and Oct. 7, operators reported. Of those, 18,174 people created accounts. [Pols emphasis]
The thing to remember is that consumers shopping for health insurance on Colorado's new insurance exchange are shopping for coverage that begins in 2014. The number of people who sign up in the first few days the site is available, particularly as the inevitable startup kinks are worked out, is not really relevant at all. Far more important are the 18,000+ accounts created by consumers now in the process of selecting plans. A more accurate yardstick of the plan's success will be the number of people covered through exchange-purchased insurance policies by January 1st. By that we mean both 2014 and 2015, by which time officials have set a goal of 136,000 getting coverage through the exchange. The only purpose in harping on the numbers from the first week of shaky operations is to misleadingly disparage the system for political motives.
And really, folks, likening the sale of health insurance to muffins is just an insult to your intelligence.
- See more at: http://coloradopols.com/diary/50671/yes-trolls-the-insurance-exchange-is-working#sthash.JtSkP1fO.dpuf
canndo
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I really don't understand where this sense of community broke down. The old leave legacies to the young, the young pay for some of the needs of the old, who in turn, eventually will be repaid when THEY become old and reap those benefits. My social security money was not saved in some vault somewhere so I could have it when I get to be 65, it was given to those who were already 65 on the presumption that when I get old someone else will pay for me. Where is this disconnect? My father went over and killed nazis, my mother went over and helped the guys where were trying to kill the Japanese, not just for themselves but for me. When did immediate gratification extend even to entire generations?
we all stand upon what has been accomplished before our time and we are all burdened by the mistakes our forefathers made. This isn't a one way deal. I hear over and over how we should feel so horrible because we are burdening our children with our debt but our children owe us as well for what we have accomplished.
ChesusRice
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Doer
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Un-true on the very face of it. Let us begin here. Are you now, or have you been insured, for anything that you chose? Have you ever been denied coverage for a technicality?
In your sheltered existence, I suppose you don't realize, that cancelling even your total shit policy, is the NAME OF THE GAME. Insurance is the biggest scam, in the Big Casino.
New Dullard Award.
All opPOsed??
ginwilly
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Helluva post. I have to spread my rep apparently. We look at the elderly as burdensome and unproductive these days instead of treating them with honor and dignity. Extended families in America are on the comeback, but for financial reasons, not any sense of duty like our greatest generation.
Maybe forcing people against their will is the issue? Your parents did this at a time before our present nanny state of their own free will. I wonder if this matters?
ginwilly
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ChesusRice
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We jsut had a dinner conversation me and the wife about this
We are surrounded by the hysteria from every side.
Insurance companys are dropping the policys even though they do not have to.
The reason being that they want you to switch to something else and lower their administrative costs
My wifes company is not on the exchange. YET. They are waiting it out to see where the pricing is and will get into it next year. And there are a few of them out there with the same strategy.
Another reason not all the insurance companys kept the policys is they are hoping to offload their most expensive clients onto the exchange and then get into the market at a later date
canndo
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I will ask you again, did you think that Romney would have done a better job? or would things be just as they were, millions denied, millions cut off, premiums rising faster than health care costs. This is what is known as a "start". Something that no Republican president has ever attempted, why? because much as they nodded their heads "oh yes, something has to be done about health care in this country", they did, absolutely nothing. Many states are still doing, absolutely nothing even though they were offered a way to steer their own ship. This is a constant when it comes to Republicans, they only complain about the status quo when Dems want to do something, anything to help. If they didn't like the proposed law, whey did they sit on their hands for years, since Hillarycare as a matter of fact. This is as much Republican's fault as Dems.
Why? because they agreed, at least emptily, that something had to be done and still they did nothing. Had Bush put something forward, there would not have been a need for Obama care, now would there?
canndo
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There is, however, a very long wall with the names of people in my generation, who had little or no say at all in their legacy, they were drafted. Sometimes we, as a community call upon people to do things that are not of our own will for any number of reasons. My generation won the cold war as well, with our taxes, with our sweat, with our fear and our choice of leaders. There was little in the way of choice there as well.
ginwilly
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I'm very leftist in my stance when it comes to wars. Unless I am defending my home or family I want no part of it. What we have been doing in the middle east the last 12 years is an atrocity. We armed the pilots and put locks on the cabin door and ended any chance of 9/11 repeating with those two simple actions. Everything else has been wall dressing.
Canna Sylvan
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No doctor will see him. He's out $200 and his premiums. I don't know to laugh or feel sorry. On the other hand, you're a moron "progressive" who bitches a doctor won't make your wife purdy again according to your rules. It's not he won't do it, he just wants to cover his ass. Which is understandable. It's cosmetic surgery. Some people are too picky. Jurors aren't usually sympathetic to greedy rich plastic surgens.