budman111
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Far bigger roots than you are imagining.
What does it take to yield BIG
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big bud 56
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It sounds to me like you haven't done your homework and will not pass the class.
Please know what you're doing before you even germinate that first seed or you will never be successful QUOTE=ii dP ii;9832484]I've probably spent near 1000$ so far between lights, nutes, seeds, soil, fans, meters, etc, etc, etc......
and I'm growing 2 plants.... and not all that well I might add.
just saying, 2,500 isn't going to get 6lbs per harvest. but it is a hell of a start. I'd get the basics. 1kw HPS (or LED equivalent) light flowering and maybe 600w for veg. plus all the fans, nutes, filters, soil, pots, etc to go with that.
that will probably get you 6 good sized plants. theres probably somewhere around 1lb on your first try if you do well.
rinse and repeat until you're a bomb ass grower and then you'll know what you need to get to 6lbs.[/QUOTE]
Please know what you're doing before you even germinate that first seed or you will never be successful QUOTE=ii dP ii;9832484]I've probably spent near 1000$ so far between lights, nutes, seeds, soil, fans, meters, etc, etc, etc......
and I'm growing 2 plants.... and not all that well I might add.
just saying, 2,500 isn't going to get 6lbs per harvest. but it is a hell of a start. I'd get the basics. 1kw HPS (or LED equivalent) light flowering and maybe 600w for veg. plus all the fans, nutes, filters, soil, pots, etc to go with that.
that will probably get you 6 good sized plants. theres probably somewhere around 1lb on your first try if you do well.
rinse and repeat until you're a bomb ass grower and then you'll know what you need to get to 6lbs.[/QUOTE]
Dannoo93
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Look.at my thread....but ffof soil with ff nutes... topping ,lst,supercrop, and lollipop
Dannoo93
Dannoo93
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People think 2500 $ is alot In reality its probably just gonna get u started 1/2 tents lights nutes soil beans hoods fans timers power strips scissors, mason jars , string ...fuck I could spend 50$ a week after buying all that shit still u can always use something
Dannoo93
big bud 56
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If he's growing in a big room like what he said,half a basement,then he won't need tents,just reflective mylar,very cheap.
Maybe 150.00 for nutes to get started.
150.00 to 300.00 for beans
Lights are always priced by wattage,a few 400 to 600w should do it.
What I'm saying here is just buy what you need to get started and all the other stuff he can buy when he needs to
People think 2500 $ is alot In reality its probably just gonna get u started 1/2 tents lights nutes soil beans hoods fans timers power strips scissors, mason jars , string ...fuck I could spend 50$ a week after buying all that shit still u can always use something
Dannoo93[/QUOTE]
Maybe 150.00 for nutes to get started.
150.00 to 300.00 for beans
Lights are always priced by wattage,a few 400 to 600w should do it.
What I'm saying here is just buy what you need to get started and all the other stuff he can buy when he needs to
People think 2500 $ is alot In reality its probably just gonna get u started 1/2 tents lights nutes soil beans hoods fans timers power strips scissors, mason jars , string ...fuck I could spend 50$ a week after buying all that shit still u can always use something
Dannoo93[/QUOTE]
NorthofEngland
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But what kind of experience and knowledge does your friend have?
Don't you think that an absolute beginner, attempting to do a multi room, multi fuction grow, using 4000w is a little bit optimistic for a first timer?
The first time you have sex you do it in the missionary with ONE sexual partner.
You don't try to lose your virginity with a Viagra fuelled threesome.
jondamon
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Listen to you MR one month into your membership.
For the record I help PLENTY of people on this site.
But I have stipulations, in the fact that they have to show that they understand training techniques, environmental control, nutrient regimes, and above all not limit their research to MJ growing.
Most of the posters in this thread I've helped.
Before bashing long serving members (which I see you're notorious for) at least see the irony in posts like this.
Newbie wants to harvest loads of green for as little work as possible. Come on!!!
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ii dP ii
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http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLSETX1000DHMWING20-1000-Watt-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005F642CQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384530324&sr=8-1&keywords=hps+1000w+grow+light
CHEAP 1kw grow light. 225x4 = $1000
http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/climate-control/exhaust-fans-circulators/vortex-8-747-cfm-powerfan/?gclid=CM-Hg-OS57oCFTBnOgodNE0AxA
8" inline fan, with 4 1k lights you would probably need at LEAST 2, probably more, but I'll say 2. $200 x 2 = $400 up to $800 possibly.
http://www.amazon.com/Phresh-Filter-701018-Minute-39-Inch/dp/B002JU04VY/ref=sr_1_3?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384530839&sr=1-3&keywords=phresh+filter+8+inch
8" filters for those fans $226x2 = $452
http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Potting-Soil-Forest-FoxFarm/dp/B000AXPUDE
good soil for beginners $37 x 5bags = $185
http://www.buydutchseeds.com/big-bud-marijuana-seeds
big bud (high yield strain) 10 reg seeds $80x 2 + $160
http://www.amazon.com/FX14050-Fertilizer-Nutrient-Hydro-Formula-32-Ounce/dp/B000HY2IXQ
basic nutes from fox farm $50x2 cause its the small bottles = $100
so maybe you guys are right. I guess I didn't think it would buy it all. the total here is $2297 up to $2697 with a fan per light.
if you ran 1x1k in a veg room and 3x1k in a flower room in 5 gal buckets running perpetual you could maybe get 6lbs every 3 months. I dunno if a noob could, I know I definitely couldn't handle a grow that size yet.
CHEAP 1kw grow light. 225x4 = $1000
http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/climate-control/exhaust-fans-circulators/vortex-8-747-cfm-powerfan/?gclid=CM-Hg-OS57oCFTBnOgodNE0AxA
8" inline fan, with 4 1k lights you would probably need at LEAST 2, probably more, but I'll say 2. $200 x 2 = $400 up to $800 possibly.
http://www.amazon.com/Phresh-Filter-701018-Minute-39-Inch/dp/B002JU04VY/ref=sr_1_3?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1384530839&sr=1-3&keywords=phresh+filter+8+inch
8" filters for those fans $226x2 = $452
http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Potting-Soil-Forest-FoxFarm/dp/B000AXPUDE
good soil for beginners $37 x 5bags = $185
http://www.buydutchseeds.com/big-bud-marijuana-seeds
big bud (high yield strain) 10 reg seeds $80x 2 + $160
http://www.amazon.com/FX14050-Fertilizer-Nutrient-Hydro-Formula-32-Ounce/dp/B000HY2IXQ
basic nutes from fox farm $50x2 cause its the small bottles = $100
so maybe you guys are right. I guess I didn't think it would buy it all. the total here is $2297 up to $2697 with a fan per light.
if you ran 1x1k in a veg room and 3x1k in a flower room in 5 gal buckets running perpetual you could maybe get 6lbs every 3 months. I dunno if a noob could, I know I definitely couldn't handle a grow that size yet.
kinddiesel
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what you need my friend for your goal . is another 7 grand of lights. it takes a lot of lights to make a lot of yield. I would use . 30 thirty 600 watt hps. and 4 large plants per light. you will reach that goal then . good luck with that unrealistic goal with 2500 bucks. its just enough to cover the electric bill a month for people that produce that every harvest . 2500 dollars . lol 450 dollars for a co2 controller , 450 dollars co2 generator . 350 dehumidifier. 1700 ac unit. your about 3 grand so far. still no lights . or soil pots .
GroErr
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Agreed, if you haven't spent countless hours researching readily available information, you don't deserve hand-holding and you're not doing him any favours. I'd grown for years outdoor but going indoor I spent hundreds of hours lurking/reading before spending a penny. It's a whole different ball of wax if you will. Of course my outdoor experience/love for the grow helped but I'm getting to the end of my second grow, with years of growing experience and just finally getting close to nailing down a lot of the gotcha's. Take your time...
That said, my first cabinet/setup cost me about $700, spent another $1000 since and moving into a new larger/room next grow for my 3rd indoor grow. You have plenty of money to eventually get there, eventually being the keyword...
Spending the full $2500 up-front with no clue, no research time is a waste of good money, a setup for failure, and possibly loosing your interest in what can be an enjoyable and rewarding hobby.
Start small, figure out the countless things that can go wrong, do it again, get a handle on the process then expand out. Trying to get to your current goal first time out is unrealistic, optimistic maybe, but bordering on stupidity
skunkd0c
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You do not need 30 lights to yield 6lb or even 6kg not sure why you think that
To yield 6lb if you are on a budget $2500 seems enough to me
lights fan-filter and ec truncheon/meter and plant food are the main things to buy
old used ballast can be bought cheap on ebay etc or you can build them they consist of 3 components and they last 5 years + with new bulbs they are as good as new
hps bulbs are cheap, reflectors that are 95% reflective for $40-50
6x 600w hps or 4x 1000 is enough light
prices here maybe different i could do this for about £1500 with new shop bought equipment
6x 600w hps = £400
10 inch boxed fan and filter = £450
food £100
ec meter £50
hydro system to produce 6lb 3 x gt901 = £350
rock wool Mylar, and other bits and pieces = £150
peace
SS68396331
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There are virtually endless ways to accomplish what you want to do. But you will need a lot of good light, ventilation, a grow program.."nutes" or a nice compost pile. Humidity control, heating and or A/C depending on your situation.
I pull 1.5 lbs a month with a 3k bloom room and 2/450w HID in a perpetual setup. The bloom room is a mix of 2/1000w HPS and a stoopidly large 1000wMH. It is winter and I do not turn any heat on in my home when the lights are on..lol. I draw 7 gallons every 36hrs off of my old school R-12 dehumidifier I use for the bloom watering.
2500$ can buy a lot of neat razzu gear. I strongly suggest you study and read before jumping on a train. Search and buy quality, not crap. Stay away from gimmicks, stay on the basics. The first 100 dollars you spend should be on a few books. A few horticulture books and maybe the Cerventes MMJ bible, not E-copies either, buy books you can tote around and get dirty. You will not find any bad info in there. To pull those kind of numbers you will need to lay out a plan no doubt.
I pull 1.5 lbs a month with a 3k bloom room and 2/450w HID in a perpetual setup. The bloom room is a mix of 2/1000w HPS and a stoopidly large 1000wMH. It is winter and I do not turn any heat on in my home when the lights are on..lol. I draw 7 gallons every 36hrs off of my old school R-12 dehumidifier I use for the bloom watering.
2500$ can buy a lot of neat razzu gear. I strongly suggest you study and read before jumping on a train. Search and buy quality, not crap. Stay away from gimmicks, stay on the basics. The first 100 dollars you spend should be on a few books. A few horticulture books and maybe the Cerventes MMJ bible, not E-copies either, buy books you can tote around and get dirty. You will not find any bad info in there. To pull those kind of numbers you will need to lay out a plan no doubt.
adultswiivi
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To all u guys saying do research. I do and always still will. I have more then 2500$ but 2500 is for lights and food, I have been building walls in the basement I have 3 rooms built. 9x12 mother room. And the other 2 rooms are about the same size. I raised the floor 2 inches to get off the concrete. I was thinking 6 1000w hps for the flower room. Is that to much for a 9x12 room?
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adultswiivi
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I also have a 220 line available and forced air furnace to heat the room if need be. It's always below freezing outside. Gonna grow all Coco coir. And start with the Lucas formula. I really don't wana lst and what not. Just grow em all up right. 6lbs is a lot. I know. But even to be able to pull 2lbs every 2 months should be enough. Also to mention power is 4cents a Kwh
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qwizoking
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The sun averages 7k lumens per sqft ,most plants have adapted to be able to handle the sun ... Over 10k or about 110,000lux if your a weirdo will bleach your plants. That's the sun at its strongest...when this bleaching occurs the plant is not being able to keep up chlorophyll production at rates necessary, plants can't handle 10k consistently..you aim for 7..likewise 2100 lumens are required to maintain photosynthesis..lights are rated at 1 foot...Do the math!
