The Freedom To Be Fat..Does Government Have The Right To "Outlaw" Unhealthy Foods?

Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
[h=1]My freedom is that your ideas do not matter, to anybody.

What is CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY OR FREEDOM?[/h] Such freedom as is enjoyed by the citizens of a country or state under the protection of its constitution; the aggregate of those personal, civil, and political rights of the individual which are guarantied by the constitution and secured against invasion by the government or any of its agencies. People v. Hurlbut, 24 Mich. IOC, !) Am. Rep. 103
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Doer said:
My freedom is that your ideas do not matter, to anybody.

What is CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY OR FREEDOM?

Such freedom as is enjoyed by the citizens of a country or state under the protection of its constitution; the aggregate of those personal, civil, and political rights of the individual which are guarantied by the constitution and secured against invasion by the government or any of its agencies. People v. Hurlbut, 24 Mich. IOC, !) Am. Rep. 103
Click to expand...

An aggregation of individual rights cannot dilute those rights into a majority driven revokeable privilege or they cease to be INDIVIDUAL rights. If a person has ANY individual rights, included in those rights, is the right to disassociate. The Constitution does not protect that right does it? If it does show me where...
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
Well, we live in the USA and are protected quite well I would say.

Perhaps you mean, in a book or something. The only freedoms we have are the ones we protect.

And we protect the dreamers, as well.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Doer said:
Well, we live in the USA and are protected quite well I would say.

Perhaps you mean, in a book or something. The only freedoms we have are the ones we protect.

And we protect the dreamers, as well.
Click to expand...
It sounds like you can't answer my questions and would prefer to continue pretending that you are free and somehow, individual rights are protected by a majority deciding what is best for the peaceful individual.
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy said:
It sounds like you can't answer my questions and would prefer to continue pretending that you are free and somehow, individual rights are protected by a majority deciding what is best for the peaceful individual.
Click to expand...
I have answered and answered and you pretend I don't.

I am free and you are not. Simple as that. The life of the Mind.
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy said:
As long as you can't ingest what you want, you are not free. The life of the gut.
Click to expand...
I can and do ingest anything I want to.

I am free and you are in a prison of your own devise.

No individual gets to say what is harm for the tribe. That is anarchy and simply not allowed.

The tribe says, "that harms US," and forces obedience. That is freedom from you. Freedom from the poisonous ideas of the so called "peaceful and free" man. Your ideas mean less freedom for me.

You claim these ideas are harmless and actually good. We know better.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy said:
Does telling others what they must do or you will harm them address or cause problems?
Click to expand...
I don't threaten people like that. I don't harm people to address my issues. I am not a dictator or empowered in any way to threaten you by force. You are missing that at my core I want people to have the freedom of a healthy body, I want a healthy populous, you see what you have to see in me to maintain an ego.
 
heckler73

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Doer said:
It is mass x velocity. It is the power to get you out of the way.
Click to expand...
I was going to respond with something similar, but uhhh... you actually described momentum not force.
Take the derivative, dmv/dt then you'll get force.
so
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
heckler73 said:
I was going to respond with something similar, but uhhh... you actually described momentum not force.
Take the derivative, dmv/dt then you'll get force.
so
Click to expand...
I think we were talking about political force. It all resolves back to Jewels. Get it? :)
 
heckler73

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Doer said:
I think we were talking about political force. It all resolves back to Jewels. Get it? :)
Click to expand...
Oh I know it's about political force, but any chance I can get to discuss physics will not go by wasted ;)

It's for the benefit of the children of tomorrow... :lol:
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy said:
Well, if I've insulted you, I apologize. Now, how about answering my question about what your core philosophy is?

Are you the kind of person that thinks it's okay to run others lives or the kind that doesn't?
Click to expand...
That is rather obtuse considering how coercive markets are and how you have expressed the belief that markets should determine basically everything.

The state exists to protect the interests of the ruling class (private property). This is how everyone's lives are run by markets.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy said:
It sounds like you can't answer my questions and would prefer to continue pretending that you are free and somehow, individual rights are protected by a majority deciding what is best for the peaceful individual.
Click to expand...
Are you talking about rights or liberty?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top