Doer
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We have needed hierarchy, throughout history to roundly trounce these ideas of anarchy. So. All your fault. Seriously.
Won't Anything Satisfy The Right?...
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don't get me wrong..say all you want per 1st..i'm just talking in general..i don't quite remember this much ill will, negativity for any other sitting president..and i think those who are so critical, those who do not come up with solutions..just the typical grousing having nothing positive to add to the mix..should just STFU because you look stupid..
keep in mind, significant historical change are preceded by paradigm shift.
Rob Roy
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Please explain why hierarchy is needed to be used against a peaceful person? Isn't that application of hierarchy an act of aggression against individual right? So you seem to embrace what you are against. Don't you get dizzy when arguing in a circle?
Doer
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Because these ideas are poisonous to tribe. The ideas are not allowed to rule. Tribe is the way we protect ourselves from the losers, the sociopaths, in this world. They are never allowed to manifest anything, beyond world war.
I am free and you are not. We ban together against you. Seriously all restrictions you rail against are the result of these individual, impractical, poison, ideas.
FreedomWorks
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Martin Luther King wanted equality, Not collectivism. Not separate groups based on color, genitalia, sexual orientation, and religion. The Democrat Party has adopted all goals of the Communist Party's agenda for taking down America.
Im sure there are Americans who are asking what happened to the Democrat Party. Why have they become so radical, why have they been supporting policies that have created so much divisiveness, or why the party has adopted such economically destructive social engineering. At one point in time both the Republican Party as well as the Democrats were both dedicated to what was ultimately in the best interests of the country. However, today many are asking if thats really the case anymore. It seems that the Democraps are committed to a regime of insurrection and unrest in order to achieve, at best, questionable goals that seem to serve no constructive purpose. Why?
abandonconflict
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The Democrat party is center right.
FreedomWorks
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LOL Maybe in comparison to North Korea
abandonconflict
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No, I mean party platform, history, ideology and politics. They are capitalists who believe in privatization and cater to the ruling class. They want a powerful empire capable of protecting the privatization of global trade.
FreedomWorks
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Over the recent decades since the Kennedy presidency there has been a most definite slide by the Democrat party toward a socialistic footing that has emphasized more and more that a strong federal government that intervenes in the personal affairs of citizens, supports out of control spending, and will even blatantly break the law whenever possible to achieve their goals. Why the transformation? Why are Democrats less concerned with patriotic policies, and more focused on international control over US domestic law?
abandonconflict
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Do you not know what socialist means? You describe authoritarian but say socialist. Socialism means opposed to privatization. In your defense, it is true that Socialism is kind of a vague term, but one thing all definitions of socialism have in common is opposition to privatization. Capitalism is antonymous and very simple to define. Capitalism is privatized resources and production.
Democrats have only protected privatization and expanded it. Yes, they are authoritarian, but not socialist. Even Obamacare, what does it do, it forces you to buy private insurance.
Communism means stateless and classless society. That is as far from the democrat party as you can get. The dems are damn near indistinguishable from the pubs. Keep arguing about the second amendment and abortion.
FreedomWorks
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The following events as detailed below will illustrate quite accurately and chillingly how the objectives of the 1963 American Communist Party are exactly on par with the kinds of policies that have been embraced with the current Obama administration. This should handily explain why we are seeing this grim metamorphosis in the Democrat agenda. The following is an excerpt from Congressional record:
Communist Goals (1963)
Documention below
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
abandonconflict
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idgaf.
I explained why the Democrat Party is center right. Your copy paste about the "American Communist Party" has no value to the discussion because as has been widely shown, even Kynes and I have some views in common. It is a feable attempt on your part to make a comparison so that you can call the democrats something they are not. Read my sig.
I'm a socialist. I take offense to you calling democrats socialists. They are not.
FreedomWorks
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LOL. I disagree. You're so far out in left field, that you can't even grasp the simple concept of what I'm explaining to you.
idgaf
Embrace your Democrat brothers as an extension of your beliefs, morals, and values. Or lack there of I should say.
abandonconflict
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I see, you're immune to logic. Teabillies are so far out to the right, that a center right party seems indistinguishable from Marxists. Go easy on the Rawn Pawl cool aid.
FreedomWorks
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Your stupid cartoon tells me this conversation is over. I've posted evidence of these Communist goals have been virtually exercised and legislated by every Democrat administration from Carter to Clinton and to the present day Obama administration. This should serve as a chilling revelation as to what has been intentionally done to weaken the US, compromise our Constitutional rights, and deliver us beneath the iron fisted grip of world government, an abomination to the very fundamental reasons for the founding of our nation by our forefathers. If you can't see this deadly change going on in your country through the news, the enactment of counterproductive laws, and the increasing economic plight of America, maybe you are part of the problem!
abandonconflict
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You mean the "American Communist Party"
Clinton cut welfare, signed in NAFTA, let the bankers gamble and looted social security. Right wing as fuck. Obama is about to push corporate nationhood and already made it mandatory to purchase private health insurance. Even more right wing.
burgertime2010
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Communism, Socialism, Nihilism, Capitalism and antagonism all have good parts that an ideal nation could employ. The fear present, and perhaps merited, weakens the US and empowers the change you refer to. Maybe, try and bring the lot of us together now and then. A little bipartisan cooperation and togetherness is essential to this scenario. This entails sacrifice, respect, humility, and patience and all of us are the problem until this becomes us.
Dr Kynes
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really.
Nihilism? it has "good parts"??
i dont think you know what the word means.
it means the belief in NOTHING
hihilism is self destructive, libertine, fatalistic and hopeless. it offers NOTHING because it stands for NOTHING and provides NOTHING to any society.
Nihilism is the dissolution of society.
if NOTHING MATTERS then why build for the future?
why plow fields since NOTHING will grow?
why build a factory since NOTHING will be created?
nihilism is the absolute conviction that the past is irrelevant and the future does not exist, thus, only NOW is of any consequence, but even then, NOW doesnt really matter since by the time you realize it is there, it is already the irrelevant past.
nihilism is a circle jerk in a marching band tunic, skinny jeans, and too much mascara.
Red1966
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Your drift is Obama is in the same league as King? Laughable on its face.
UncleBuck
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no, that's not what he was saying at all.
you reading compensation leaves something to be desired.