Should Christians judge God?

[Greatest I am]

Should Christians judge God?

Many have read the scriptures and come away at the end witha poor impression of God’s morals. This judgement stands apart of their beliefor non-belief in God and the bible God is rejected purely on moral grounds.

Many Christians on the other hand seem give God a pass andexonerate their God’s more outrageous and immoral actions. I myself havenoticed that Christians have a double set of morals. One for God and anotherfor man. They praise and adore God for the same actions that they condemn manfor. I see this as Christians judging God incorrectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ODetOE6cbbc

I have been told on a number of occasions, only by Christians,---- that inferior mind like our human minds cannot judge God and that weshould not even try to judge God as his ways are not our ways, which flies in the face of ----- as above, sobelow. This indicates that the morality of God is the same as the morality ofman and scriptures seem to agree.

Gen 3;22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become asone of us, to know good and evil:

Is it good advice to not judge God as Christians say, --- orshould God be judged?

Regards
DL

 

[Nevaeh420]

I don't believe "the God of the Bible" is the true God. Sure, I'm sure there are some good examples of what God is like but no book can contain the infinite goodness of God or what God has done or will do.

I think if anyone should be judged it should be God. Why not? God should have no problem being judged if Hes perfect, right?

That's assuming there is a God in the first place.

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

I don't believe "the God of the Bible" is the true God. Sure, I'm sure there are some good examples of what God is like but no book can contain the infinite goodness of God or what God has done or will do.

I think if anyone should be judged it should be God. Why not? God should have no problem being judged if Hes perfect, right?

That's assuming there is a God in the first place.

~PEACE~

Hey, George. Serious question: how do you reconcile this in your mind; you don't believe the bible is factual, but you base your being christ on the stories/prophecies of said bible. How did you determine those stories are true, but not the rest of the bible? Doesn't make sense to me...

 

[Balzac89]

 

[Prawn Connery]

Hey, George. Serious question: how do you reconcile this in your mind; you don't believe the bible is factual, but you base your being christ on the stories/prophecies of said bible. How did you determine those stories are true, but not the rest of the bible? Doesn't make sense to me...

Maybe he's just winding you all up, but you're not quite savvy enough to . . . savvy

 

[tyler.durden]

Maybe he's just winding you all up, but you're not quite savvy enough to . . . savvy

This has been suggested before. Of course, it is a possibility. If he is a troll having fun with us, he is the absolute best I've ever encountered and must be laughing his ass off every night...

 

[Greatest I am]

I don't believe "the God of the Bible" is the true God. Sure, I'm sure there are some good examples of what God is like but no book can contain the infinite goodness of God or what God has done or will do.

I think if anyone should be judged it should be God. Why not? God should have no problem being judged if Hes perfect, right?

That's assuming there is a God in the first place.

~PEACE~

We are assuming there is one for this O P yes. You ask me if he is perfect. I do not think so from what I read. Do you think so? Regards DL

 

[Greatest I am]

No fair to compare intelligent Jews to Christians. Rather cruel in fact. Keep it up. Regards DL

 

[Nevaeh420]

Hey, George. Serious question: how do you reconcile this in your mind; you don't believe the bible is factual, but you base your being christ on the stories/prophecies of said bible. How did you determine those stories are true, but not the rest of the bible? Doesn't make sense to me...

I don't know what I believe from the Bible. I know there has to be some factual history in there but I can't discern the fact from the fiction. I have read many fairy tales in the Bible, kids stories, but its a really big book and I'm sure there has to be some fact in there too. Maybe the Bible is much more metaphorical then we know, you know, hidden meanings.

As far as Me quoting the Bible to explain how I fulfilled the stories from the Bible, its just that. I have read the Bible and I have seen the parallels to My life. I know that it says XYZ in the Bible and I know that I pretty much did XYZ. That's all. I'm not saying that the scripture I quote actually happened but it is actually written in the Bible and My stories are true.

I hope that makes sense.

So I'm not saying the Bible verses I quote are true, but regardless it still says that in the Bible and that said verse happened in My life.

Maybe he's just winding you all up, but you're not quite savvy enough to . . . savvy

No, I like Tyler even though he debases Me ever chance he gets. Tyler is a good man and I think he has a lot of potential but sometimes I get the feeling that he doesn't like what I have to say.

I'm not "winding" anyone up. I truly believe I'm Christ and I'm trying to prove it to the world so one day I will be the King, whether dead or alive.

This has been suggested before. Of course, it is a possibility. If he is a troll having fun with us, he is the absolute best I've ever encountered and must be laughing his ass off every night...

I laughed when I read this though.

No, I'm not a troll. You have seen My videos Tyler, right? I have been blogging on RIU since 2007, just on different names. I'm a real person and I believe everything that I say.

You should know Me better then that Tyler. I just want to prove My points, like everyone else on here. Except I have some abstract points and some people don't agree with Me.

We are assuming there is one for this O P yes. You ask me if he is perfect. I do not think so from what I read. Do you think so? Regards DL

I think God, if there is a God, is perfect. If Hes not perfect then Hes as close to perfect as it gets. Maybe God just doesn't want to get involved in the drama. After all, He created everything, it should be up to us now, He made us smart enough.

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

I don't know what I believe from the Bible. I know there has to be some factual history in there but I can't discern the fact from the fiction. I have read many fairy tales in the Bible, kids stories, but its a really big book and I'm sure there has to be some fact in there too. Maybe the Bible is much more metaphorical then we know, you know, hidden meanings.

As far as Me quoting the Bible to explain how I fulfilled the stories from the Bible, its just that. I have read the Bible and I have seen the parallels to My life. I know that it says XYZ in the Bible and I know that I pretty much did XYZ. That's all. I'm not saying that the scripture I quote actually happened but it is actually written in the Bible and My stories are true.

I hope that makes sense.

So I'm not saying the Bible verses I quote are true, but regardless it still says that in the Bible and that said verse happened in My life.

Thanks for responding, but you sidestepped my question George. You base your belief that you are christ on certain bibical content that runs parallel to your life, but what if that content is part of the bible that didn't actually happen. Then your belief that you are christ would be based on fiction, correct? Which may mean that you're not actually christ, only that your life is similar to some fictional content...

 

[Prawn Connery]

Even if the New Testament isn't an accurate historical record (which it surely isn't - though there may well be elements of truth in it) - even if it were a complete embellishment - that doesn't mean Christ wasn't still Christ. Nor that if he were to return, he would be any different. If that's what you believe.

You can be as literal as you like - it doesn't change what Christians perceive to be the truth.

And mock Nevaeh all you like, but his answer to your question is already in his reply. You just can't see it.

I'm not saying that the scripture I quote actually happened but it is actually written in the Bible

The Bible is an allegory and Christ is a representation. It wouldn't matter if none of the things in the Bible were true, it's what they represent - what Christ represents - that people believe.

In that sense, if enough people believed Nevaeh420 was Christ, then he would be. To those people. And who would you be to argue? It would be like arguing with any other theist . . . Good luck with that!

 

[eye exaggerate]

Thanks for responding, but you sidestepped my question George. You base your belief that you are christ on certain bibical content that runs parallel to your life, but what if that content is part of the bible that didn't actually happen. Then your belief that you are christ would be based on fiction, correct? Which may mean that you're not actually christ, only that your life is similar to some fictional content...

I will respectfully interject

You can whittle this down to how each story in the bible is about a bunch of characters. Pick the name of any person in the bible and you will find someone you know who fits the description. In this sense a person could be any of the 'fictional' characters that scripture represents. If a person is looking to learn about the many faces they morph in and out of, these scriptures show a minute by minute account of daily living in the personal sense.

High

 

[tyler.durden]

I will respectfully interject

You can whittle this down to how each story in the bible is about a bunch of characters. Pick the name of any person in the bible and you will find someone you know who fits the description. In this sense a person could be any of the 'fictional' characters that scripture represents. If a person is looking to learn about the many faces they morph in and out of, these scriptures show a minute by minute account of daily living in the personal sense.

High

Hey Eye. George states that he believes that some things listed in the bible actually occurred, and most did not. He believes that he is christ because of specific biblical content, which I am assuming he believes actually occurred, is similar to his own life. My question to him is; what if the biblical content he is basing his belief that he is christ on is included in the majority of the bible that did not actually occur? Wouldn't that mean that he may not be christ? IOW, if the Harry Potter series wasn't fiction and I realized that my own life is strikingly similar to the lives of sorcerers in those books, I may believe that I, too, may be a sorcerer. But if I found out the books were actually fiction, the similarities of those sorcerer's lives to my own wouldn't really mean anything, since those things in the books did not actually happen because they are fiction. Is my logic not as clear as I perceive it to be?

 

[Prawn Connery]

Your logic is limited to your understanding.

He's already suggested the Bible is a metaphor. His "belief" that he is Christ may well be the same. He doesn't have to be any more literal than that. Any more than Jesus turning water into wine.

 

[tyler.durden]

Your logic is limited to your understanding.

Everyone's logic is limited to their understanding, how would one's logic go beyond one's understanding?

He's already suggested the Bible is a metaphor. His "belief" that he is Christ may well be the same. He doesn't have to be any more literal than that. Any more than Jesus turning water into wine.

Well, you're relatively new to this sub-forum. If you've read as much George as I have, you'd know that he believes that he is the actual christ. He doesn't have to do anything, which is his right. I am asking him to, which is mine. George is perfectly willing to answer questions posed to him, he'll let you guys know when he isn't...

 

[Zaehet Strife]

No fair to compare intelligent Jews to Christians. Rather cruel in fact. Keep it up. Regards DL

Are you fucking kidding me? Ill expect to hear you say that Muslims are smarter than Arabs, and whites are smarter than blacks. One of the most unintelligent bigoted statements of the year.

Congratulations! You are the winner!!!

 

[Zaehet Strife]

This deserves another repost. The answer to your question is yes, EVERYONE should judge god.

 

[Greatest I am]

I think God, if there is a God, is perfect. If Hes not perfect then Hes as close to perfect as it gets. Maybe God just doesn't want to get involved in the drama. After all, He created everything, it should be up to us now, He made us smart enough.

~PEACE~

This is bible God we are discussing. That God is shown as always killing instead of curing those he deems to be defective or deficient somehow, --- including children and babies. Is that the work of a perfect God and if so, please explain why curing is less honorable and immoral than killing. Regards DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Are you fucking kidding me? Ill expect to hear you say that Muslims are smarter than Arabs, and whites are smarter than blacks. One of the most unintelligent bigoted statements of the year.

Congratulations! You are the winner!!!

Thanks I deserve many awards. Have you ever heard a Jew say that he believes in talking donkeys or a water walking God? Have you ever heard a Christian say he believes in those? Which one would you say is brighter? Regards DL

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Belief and intelligence are two very completely different things.

Did you know that some of the most prestigious and intelligent people on the planet are religious, and believe in all sorts of superstitions such as christianity, judaism, hinduism etc. etc.











Just because people believe in stupid bull shit (religion/theology/astrology/scientology/karma etc. etc.), does not make them unintelligent.



Greatest i am, bigot of the year?? The jury is still out on this one, there are many contenders.