Killing The "We Paid Our Taxes; We Earned Our Benefits" Social Security Ponzi Meme

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
lifting the wage cap still wont do it, since most of the wealthy dont get their money through wages.

i have proposed before, requiring all US companies to contribute the SS tax for their foreign employees, as if they were in fact working in the US.

thus offshoring your employees would not offshore the liability for the SS tax.

this would be 4% less incentive to move jobs overseas.
ah..true, i didn't think of that.. but you'd of course have to sell that to the right..uncapped wages are easy to start the revenue ball rolling.

wish it were as easy as a decision between parties as it was between you and i:wink:
 

PetFlora

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Example number 12M+++, proving that or govt is corrupt, self-serving, and cares not one whit about us

Stop voting. It's just 2 sides of the same filthy coin. The few who go for idyllic purposes are out-manned and out-voted
 

schuylaar

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Example number 12M+++, proving that or govt is corrupt, self-serving, and cares not one whit about us

Stop voting. It's just 2 sides of the same filthy coin. The few who go for idyllic purposes are out-manned and out-voted
anyone who does not vote, does not have a voice. period. not in the government, not on RIU..sorry but that is THE most IDIOTIC advice..however, i do like your fluffy avi:smile:
 

schuylaar

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Read a little on him. He was actually retired when he moved to Alaska. I think the land was free or next to it.
yeah, read it yesterday..retired? why SS of course..that's how he received provisions..direct deposit from government and debit from vendor = drop ship supplies.
 

Rob Roy

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anyone who does not vote, does not have a voice. period. not in the government, not on RIU..sorry but that is THE most IDIOTIC advice..however, i do like your fluffy avi:smile:
The inverse of your statement is that those that do vote have a voice. Maybe that's true in a given moment in time, until the tyranny of the so called majority shifts and then instead of your gang being able to steal their stuff, their gang gets to steal your stuff.

Trading the gun back and forth, seems sort of idiotic to me, when it would be easier and more beneficial in the long run to stop doing this. Choosing anothers path for them by using force, makes you party to the crime. Your avatar is appropriate given your expressed sentiments.
 

PetFlora

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Thanks. Think about your rebuttal. Unless you just appeared out of nowhere, you should know by now that they control both sides of the political game. When we continue to vote, they win. Were we all to vote, by not voting, that would make a statement. Think of it as a peaceful revolution, unless of course, you are happy with the status quo

anyone who does not vote, does not have a voice. period. not in the government, not on RIU..sorry but that is THE most IDIOTIC advice..however, i do like your fluffy avi:smile:
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The inverse of your statement is that those that do vote have a voice. Maybe that's true in a given moment in time, until the tyranny of the so called majority shifts and then instead of your gang being able to steal their stuff, their gang gets to steal your stuff.

Trading the gun back and forth, seems sort of idiotic to me, when it would be easier and more beneficial in the long run to stop doing this. Choosing anothers path for them by using force, makes you party to the crime. Your avatar is appropriate given your expressed sentiments.
Thanks. Think about your rebuttal. Unless you just appeared out of nowhere, you should know by now that they control both sides of the political game. When we continue to vote, they win. Were we all to vote, by not voting, that would make a statement. Think of it as a peaceful revolution, unless of course, you are happy with the status quo
sorry, boys..have to disagree with you..to not vote, then complain?

Susan B. Anthony: "No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex."
 

Rob Roy

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sorry, boys..have to disagree with you..to not vote, then complain?

Susan B. Anthony: "No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex."
Self respect is good. Respecting the rights of others is the side of the equation you either can't or won't see. Freedom isn't the exercise of trading power over others back and forth in an endless farce. No self respecting PERSON would use force to control others would they?

In a voluntary and free situation, a vote would only apply to those that consented to be bound by the vote, and not others. You THINK your vote is you exercising choice. It isn't
in the truest sense because ALL of the possible options are not present. Where is the choice of being left alone? Why isn't that included in your system?

You go into the water up to your ankles and think you are swimming. Yet you never consider the answers lie deeper.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Self respect is good. Respecting the rights of others is the side of the equation you either can't or won't see. Freedom isn't the exercise of trading power over others back and forth in an endless farce. No self respecting PERSON would use force to control others would they?

In a voluntary and free situation, a vote would only apply to those that consented to be bound by the vote, and not others. You THINK your vote is you exercising choice. It isn't
in the truest sense because ALL of the possible options are not present. Where is the choice of being left alone? Why isn't that included in your system?

You go into the water up to your ankles and think you are swimming. Yet you never consider the answers lie deeper.
you're thought process is too canadian.
 

Winter Woman

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Self respect is good. Respecting the rights of others is the side of the equation you either can't or won't see. Freedom isn't the exercise of trading power over others back and forth in an endless farce. No self respecting PERSON would use force to control others would they?

In a voluntary and free situation, a vote would only apply to those that consented to be bound by the vote, and not others. You THINK your vote is you exercising choice. It isn't
in the truest sense because ALL of the possible options are not present. Where is the choice of being left alone? Why isn't that included in your system?

You go into the water up to your ankles and think you are swimming. Yet you never consider the answers lie deeper.
She'll defend Canadian healthcare and then she says you're too Canadian.
 

Rob Roy

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you're thought process is too canadian.

Apparently my thought process is beyond the grasp of your ability to engage or refute with logical answers. Don't catch a cold wading all the way up to your ankles, you daredevil you.
 

Rob Roy

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She'll defend Canadian healthcare and then she says you're too Canadian.

I'm not a member, nor will I willingly be a member of any gang that assumes control over others without first requiring the consent of the person they purport to control. In that sense I'm not a member of any of the Nationalistic gangs, that people commonly refer to as "countries".
 

schuylaar

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Apparently my thought process is beyond the grasp of your ability to engage or refute with logical answers. Don't catch a cold wading all the way up to your ankles, you daredevil you.
no..it's just that canadians are "european americans" if you will..so while i love them..they can be a bit unusual..
 

ScottNM

Active Member
Forget political sides for a minute please. Just think in terms of reality whether left or right......there were like 20 people working for everyone one person collecting SS at the beginning. The average person retired after 30 plus years of work and collected for 10 years and then passed. Now you have approx 6 people working for every one person collecting and then they spend 500,000 plus in medical treatments so they can live 20 more years and collect SS for more years than they worked. Do you really think we can keep that up? Be honest with yourself.
 

Rob Roy

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no..it's just that canadians are "european americans" if you will..so while i love them..they can be a bit unusual..

When people do the usual things the usual things like war, poverty and the like perpetuate. Because the "usual" or default mode is the use of force over others, there will always be problems. When the "unusual" concepts such as mutual respect become "usual" that shit won't happen. Each of us can accept or deny this. but it will remain true regardless of our acceptance or not.
 

Rob Roy

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Forget political sides for a minute please. Just think in terms of reality whether left or right......there were like 20 people working for everyone one person collecting SS at the beginning. The average person retired after 30 plus years of work and collected for 10 years and then passed. Now you have approx 6 people working for every one person collecting and then they spend 500,000 plus in medical treatments so they can live 20 more years and collect SS for more years than they worked. Do you really think we can keep that up? Be honest with yourself.
So more wage slaves are needed? Damn, get them breeders, breeding!
 

ScottNM

Active Member
So more wage slaves are needed? Damn, get them breeders, breeding!
The problem with that is most of the "breeders" now live off the government or are illegals. Its just reality. I have no kids nor would I want a kid to live in this liberal mess. Its going to get really ugly for this country soon. That recession was mild to what is coming imho.
 
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