Is a nuclear Iran bad for the world?

[UncleBuck]

no, YOU'RE the muslim.

 

[echelon1k1]

no, YOU'RE the muslim.

I don't believe I called anyone a Muslim.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't believe I called anyone a Muslim.

i just saw that kynes was posting and chimed in with what i thought would be relevant.

 

[Red1966]

Ok, just to educate you a little on islam soo you don't seem so ingnorant when youy speak ......mohammad is a prophet not god and they worship god(allah)... Christians are the ones who think jesus is god or the son of .........

Tell us more how they don't view the very words of Mohammad as sacred.

 

[echelon1k1]

Saudi Arabia Considers Nuclear Weapons After Iran’s Geneva Deal

As Middle Eastern nations attempted to elbow one another aside in their efforts to offer encouraging statements about the recently concluded nuclear talks between Iran and six world powers on Sunday, Saudi Arabia took its time. More than a day later the Cabinet offered its own pallid take: “If there is goodwill, then this agreement could represent a preliminary step toward a comprehensive solution to the Iranian nuclear program.” Behind the gritted-teeth delivery there lurked an almost palpable sense of frustration, betrayal and impotence as Saudi Arabia watched its foremost foe gain ground in a 34-year competition for influence in the region.

As discussions leading up to the historic agreement in Geneva unfurled over the past several months, Saudi did its utmost to express its discontent, lobbying behind closed doors for greater restrictions on Iran’s nuclear program and rejecting at the last minute a long-sought seat on the U.N. Security Council. Saudi officials even threatened to get their own nuclear weapons; just before the talks concluded the Saudi ambassador to the U.K., Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf bin Abdulaziz, told the Times of London: “We are not going to sit idly by and receive a threat there and not think seriously how we can best defend our country and our region.”

This will be a good indicator of whether the west will seek an even hand in approaching the House of Sauds claims it may seek nuclear weapons as a regional deterrent.

 

[thecoolman]

Realistically Berry must be planning a party for the day Iran gets nukes.
After all he has done so much to ensure it. I just hope if he gets in over his head
again in the mid east he can still call on Putin for help.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Yeah fuck, wouldn't want a country to nationalise its own oil - threatening the stranglehold the US has over the petrodollar.

This is why I asked you if you've left the United States, your world view is pathetically biased and fearfully religious.

they nationalized the oil fields which were explored drilled and equipped by the anglo-persian petroleum company at considerable expense under a CONTRACT. the new regime BROKE THAT DEAL costing anglo-persian a bundle and cutting off oil supplies the british had already paid for. it was THEFT.

when the new regime started flirting with the soviets, that regime got the boot which you may not like, but if you propose the soviets had nothing to do with the installation of that regime you are retarded.

thats the game of thrones dumbass.

powerful nations undermine or prop up weaker states based on their OWN priorities, not the touchy feelie peace love and understanding bullshit you wish they engaged in.

Protip: anglo-persian was a BRITISH company you fool, not an american one.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Saudi Arabia Considers Nuclear Weapons After Iran’s Geneva Deal



This will be a good indicator of whether the west will seek an even hand in approaching the House of Sauds claims it may seek nuclear weapons as a regional deterrent.

the saudis may be shits, but they are not retarded. if they try and violat the non-proliferation treaty they will not recieve nearly the kind of gentle treatment the iranians received.

the saudis are dependent on the US for their wealth, protection and even their existence. and yes, regime change can come with a swiftness.

it will just have to wait till Limp Dick Barry is out of office.

 

[echelon1k1]

they nationalized the oil fields which were explored drilled and equipped by the anglo-persian petroleum company at considerable expense under a CONTRACT. the new regime BROKE THAT DEAL costing anglo-persian a bundle and cutting off oil supplies the british had already paid for. it was THEFT.

when the new regime started flirting with the soviets, that regime got the boot which you may not like, but if you propose the soviets had nothing to do with the installation of that regime you are retarded.

thats the game of thrones dumbass.

powerful nations undermine or prop up weaker states based on their OWN priorities, not the touchy feelie peace love and understanding bullshit you wish they engaged in.

Protip: anglo-persian was a BRITISH company you fool, not an american one.

so the US got the Saudis the Brits got the Iranians. don't bring your Wikipedia warrior skills in here, how many times do I have to prove you are an idiot?

So now you have a problem with parliamentary process, namely Iran nationalising its oil, with a huge support base amongst the people? If it was the US you'd be waiving the exceptionalism flag and crying terrorists, sorry communists (I forget you still think McCarthy is alive)

The plain fact is the tides are changing in the ME, Anglo-American policies in the region are an utter failure and since the '30s we've been backing the wrong horse, all while the petrodollars we poured into the shitholes like Saudi Arabia went to funding terrorism and anti-western sentiment in general.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/summary.pdf

SAVAK done a great job reinforcing American values in the region - spreading petrodollar democracy to those in need.

 

[echelon1k1]

the saudis may be shits, but they are not retarded. if they try and violat the non-proliferation treaty they will not recieve nearly the kind of gentle treatment the iranians received.

the saudis are dependent on the US for their wealth, protection and even their existence. and yes, regime change can come with a swiftness.

it will just have to wait till Limp Dick Barry is out of office.

Ah, yes they are retarded and you probably didn't even read the article. that is all.

 

[schuylaar]

The US seems poised to agree to reduce sanctions against Iran as long as they limit their nuclear development to strict guidelines, and agree to have their facilities be open for inspection. Israel meanwhile is screaming at the possibility of any reduction at all, even with the inspections. They have gone so far as to send a security cabinet minister to Washington to appeal directly to Congress to refuse any reduction in sanctions. Do you think the sanctions will be reduced against Iran or is Israel on the right path saying that it a "bad deal" for the world to allow any development of nuclear energy in Iran, and to keep the sanctions in place? It seems to me that as long as Iran goes along with the monitoring process they should have the same right to have nuclear power as other countries, and Israel will just have to learn to accept that. I think that Israel has painted itself into a corner where their only options seem to be to go along with a nuclear Iran or bomb the shit out of them as they have promised to do. I have bad feelings on this one, although I generally have bad feelings most of the time when it comes to Israel's foreign policies, especially when they involve the US.

it scares me, but if the president thinks it's right, then i would have to agree..i voted for him, supported him (donated) and i stick by his idealogy and methodology.

 

[echelon1k1]

it scares me, but if the president thinks it's right, then i would have to agree..i voted for him, supported him (donated) and i stick by his idealogy and methodology.

the epitome of dumbassery

 

[Dr Kynes]

so the US got the Saudis the Brits got the Iranians. don't bring your Wikipedia warrior skills in here, how many times do I have to prove you are an idiot?

So now you have a problem with parliamentary process, namely Iran nationalising its oil, with a huge support base amongst the people? If it was the US you'd be waiving the exceptionalism flag and crying terrorists, sorry communists (I forget you still think McCarthy is alive)

The plain fact is the tides are changing in the ME, Anglo-American policies in the region are an utter failure and since the '30s we've been backing the wrong horse, all while the petrodollars we poured into the shitholes like Saudi Arabia went to funding terrorism and anti-western sentiment in general.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/summary.pdf

SAVAK done a great job reinforcing American values in the region - spreading petrodollar democracy to those in need.

you think i needed wikipedia to know that the brits were the ones the new regime in iran (backed by the soviets) ripped off? shit, youre dumber than i thought.

aparently this was news to you, so YOU can thank wikipedia for expanding your deplorable knowledge base.

those oil feilds were useless desert until the brits explored, drilled and set up the infrastructure so they could extract the oil (for which iran was paid handsomely) but of course, why sell shit when you can just rob your customer and keep your goods for sale to somebody else?

THATS why mossevi was deposed, and THATS why the pahlavis were restored to power, and THATS why the soviet backed "islamic socialist revolution" turned iran from a backwater nation trying to modernize, into a retrograde militant theocratic marxist regime which hangs homosexuals and oppresses every minority.

the west and the soviets played tug of war, and the soviets won, thanks to the usual grand promises which always wind up as a giant pile of camel dung.

without those "anglo american policies" the mideast would be a stinking cesspool of poverty, an ecological disaster of outrageous proportions (soviet technology being what it is...) and even more repressive and backwards than it is today.

 

[echelon1k1]

you think i needed wikipedia to know that the brits were the ones the new regime in iran (backed by the soviets) ripped off? shit, youre dumber than i thought.

aparently this was news to you, so YOU can thank wikipedia for expanding your deplorable knowledge base.

those oil feilds were useless desert until the brits explored, drilled and set up the infrastructure so they could extract the oil (for which iran was paid handsomely) but of course, why sell shit when you can just rob your customer and keep your goods for sale to somebody else?

THATS why mossevi was deposed, and THATS why the pahlavis were restored to power, and THATS why the soviet backed "islamic socialist revolution" turned iran from a backwater nation trying to modernize, into a retrograde militant theocratic marxist regime which hangs homosexuals and oppresses every minority.

the west and the soviets played tug of war, and the soviets won, thanks to the usual grand promises which always wind up as a giant pile of camel dung.

without those "anglo american policies" the mideast would be a stinking cesspool of poverty, an ecological disaster of outrageous proportions (soviet technology being what it is...) and even more repressive and backwards than it is today.

it's all about the communists with you. That might dazzle the other asshats in your house but the rest of us living in 2013 just laugh at your absurdities.

Pro tip: House Un-American Activities Committee ended a while back, get with the times and stop plagiarising from wiki

 

[Dr Kynes]

it's all about the communists with you. That might dazzle the other asshats in your house but the rest of us living in 2013 just laugh at your absurdities.

Pro tip: House Un-American Activities Committee ended a while back, get with the times and stop plagiarising from wiki

point out what i plagiarized numbnuts.

it should be easy, a google search in quotes for any particular phrase is easy as fuck.

but then you talk a lot and it amounts to NOTHING.

 

[echelon1k1]

point out what i plagiarized numbnuts.

it should be easy, a google search in quotes for any particular phrase is easy as fuck.

but then you talk a lot and it amounts to NOTHING.

see post #106.

I know it would seem like nothing to you seeing i'm not crapping on about communism, a system that has never posed a threat to your way of life over in the states.

 

[Dr Kynes]

see post #106.

I know it would seem like nothing to you seeing i'm not crapping on about communism, a system that has never posed a threat to your way of life over in the states.

post 106 is YOUR post which is utter garbage, easily refuted in post 108, which i suspect might be the "Plagiarism" you are alleging. too bad those comments are SOURCED and thus NOT plagiarism you irredeemable fool.

 

[echelon1k1]

post 106 is YOUR post which is utter garbage, easily refuted in post 108, which i suspect might be the "Plagiarism" you are alleging. too bad those comments are SOURCED and thus NOT plagiarism you irredeemable fool.

taqiyya......

 

[FreedomWorks]

communism, a system that has never posed a threat to your way of life over in the states.

While there may not be large numbers of card-carrying communists lining the halls of Congress, there is a clear tie between the Democratic Party’s Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). ​

 

[Dr Kynes]

taqiyya......

yes. taquiyya, taquiya, tuhquyah taqiyyah, etc etc etc, theres many spellings, since they are PHONETIC, which means it's up to the writer to select the letters which form the sound that makes this foreign word with no literal translation understandable.

how is this plagiarism?

or is that a word you also do not understand?