Remember when weed used to be illegal?
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MFB
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Well this is turning into a regular old politics chat. I like you Racerboy, your posts have had a big effect on me in the short time I have been here. Sorry we disagree about this.
As for "your side", I am not even sure what it is. Why does everyone have to be on one side? Am I not allowed to have my opinion?
I do think joe blow selling weed will go to selling crack. He is probably selling weed because it is less risky than selling/possessing crack and easier to get ahold of because he can cultivate it himself. If not crack, something else like robbery or another high profit illicit business. Gangsters, like cannabis, will always exist.
People aren't selling weed to break "unjust laws" because they think cannabis should be a free plant. This is complete horse shit. They are selling weed because of profit margins. If they wanted weed to be free they would be giving it away and not selling it. And they would pay for their grows with fundraisers. People in prison for weed sales aren't in there because they thought the plant should be free, they are in there because they wanted to get wealthy off selling an illicit product.
Sure, now that they are in prison they will want it legal. I sure as fuck would want it legal if I was in prison for selling it, who wouldn't?
And yes, if you take a risk and it ends up burning your ass, guess what? You deserve it. Thats why its called taking a risk. It allows the rest of them that didn't get caught to make more money. My dad got caught with 10 pounds, my brother got caught selling meth. They both went to prison because they took a risk.
Look in my local paper and you find 1-3 shit jobs that 1000 people are competing for. Why would some one that is making thousands a week want to work a 9-5, $7.25 job after cannabis is legal?
I think medical marijuana is a good thing. I am no longer in pain and neither is the man I caregive for. Sure I enjoy cannabis use. I would use it even if it was illegal for me to. That is a risk I am willing to take. I am sorry the system gets abused. Its like the welfare system, not everyone needs it but it is set up for those that do.
As for "your side", I am not even sure what it is. Why does everyone have to be on one side? Am I not allowed to have my opinion?
I do think joe blow selling weed will go to selling crack. He is probably selling weed because it is less risky than selling/possessing crack and easier to get ahold of because he can cultivate it himself. If not crack, something else like robbery or another high profit illicit business. Gangsters, like cannabis, will always exist.
People aren't selling weed to break "unjust laws" because they think cannabis should be a free plant. This is complete horse shit. They are selling weed because of profit margins. If they wanted weed to be free they would be giving it away and not selling it. And they would pay for their grows with fundraisers. People in prison for weed sales aren't in there because they thought the plant should be free, they are in there because they wanted to get wealthy off selling an illicit product.
Sure, now that they are in prison they will want it legal. I sure as fuck would want it legal if I was in prison for selling it, who wouldn't?
And yes, if you take a risk and it ends up burning your ass, guess what? You deserve it. Thats why its called taking a risk. It allows the rest of them that didn't get caught to make more money. My dad got caught with 10 pounds, my brother got caught selling meth. They both went to prison because they took a risk.
Look in my local paper and you find 1-3 shit jobs that 1000 people are competing for. Why would some one that is making thousands a week want to work a 9-5, $7.25 job after cannabis is legal?
I think medical marijuana is a good thing. I am no longer in pain and neither is the man I caregive for. Sure I enjoy cannabis use. I would use it even if it was illegal for me to. That is a risk I am willing to take. I am sorry the system gets abused. Its like the welfare system, not everyone needs it but it is set up for those that do.
MFB
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This same logic does apply. The people selling are taking a risk that it will be legalized. What point are you trying to argue here? Looks like you just jumbled some sentences together.
Cascadian
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Edit: took a while to draft... this is @racerboy71
I agree, there will always be a certain percentage of people who will abuse the law. Everything is a trade off in some way. If we eliminate those abusers we also eliminate people on the "margin" that may very well need medical cannabis.
It is unfortunate that some medical users look down their noses at other users for whatever reason. I don't know any and am glad I don't!
It is a luxury to walk into a dispensary and have more selection of bud than I ever saw in Amsterdam. I try to stay grounded but it is surreal, and I know others are being arrested for a gram which is beyond ridiculous and a tragedy in some cases.
Again, it is all a trade off. If we "take what they (govt) will give us" now we will get a BS system in place that doesn't recognize any of the medical benefits of cannabis and focuses on how much the states can make over the health of the people. But we will gain people not going to jail for insignificant amounts of bud. If we fight for true freedom and legalization it will take longer and the rewards should be greater on the true legality front. Obviously, this would mean more would be unjustly prosecuted. No perfect solution, I just hope the progress we have made isn't reversed. In my opinion my state has taken the country for a giant "step back" in that progress
I agree, there will always be a certain percentage of people who will abuse the law. Everything is a trade off in some way. If we eliminate those abusers we also eliminate people on the "margin" that may very well need medical cannabis.
It is unfortunate that some medical users look down their noses at other users for whatever reason. I don't know any and am glad I don't!
It is a luxury to walk into a dispensary and have more selection of bud than I ever saw in Amsterdam. I try to stay grounded but it is surreal, and I know others are being arrested for a gram which is beyond ridiculous and a tragedy in some cases.
Again, it is all a trade off. If we "take what they (govt) will give us" now we will get a BS system in place that doesn't recognize any of the medical benefits of cannabis and focuses on how much the states can make over the health of the people. But we will gain people not going to jail for insignificant amounts of bud. If we fight for true freedom and legalization it will take longer and the rewards should be greater on the true legality front. Obviously, this would mean more would be unjustly prosecuted. No perfect solution, I just hope the progress we have made isn't reversed. In my opinion my state has taken the country for a giant "step back" in that progress
slowbus
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tell him I 'd rep him on that
slowbus
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I couldn't disagree more
MFB
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I am sympathetic to dealers who will lose income by legalization, because ALL dealers will. I never claimed I wasn't sympathetic to dealers who got locked up, I just said they knew the risks. I even said "I know there are tons of people in prison over a plant that should be free. But, in my opinion, keeping it illegal is keeping a lot of the poor alive. " Sounds like sympathy to both side to me.
Did you even read my post or did you just want to argue for no reason?
I don't want to see anyone locked up, it sucks they do for such a harmless drug. But their sacrifice makes more profit for the rest of the people in the business.
I'm not arguing at all, I was just asking a question. It seemed unfair to be against legalization because dealers would lose money, but then dismiss those who are jailed by saying they knew the risks. I was only saying that the same "they knew the risks" point could be used to justify the loss of income. I'm not being aggressive, and I did read your posts, I was just trying to have a discussion.
I think I just needa smoke a god damn joint quit taking shit so personal. Sorry for all the offense.
shrxhky420
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82 MMJ dispensaries in San Jose... Starbucks doesn't have that many locations in SJ
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Dannoo93
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Im sure more people.like pot then Starbucks lol82 MMJ dispensaries in San Jose... Starbucks doesn't have that many locations in SJ
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Commander Strax
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Do you brew your own beer??
Commander Strax
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is it just me or are all medical marijuana users a bunch of whining little bitches
FebreezeIt
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A few things... First off, once it's legalized that won't mean that every single bud will be monsanto GMO or full of pesticides or whatever. In fact, look at the majority of the brick weed coming from Mexico. I highly doubt that they are taking loving care of their acres and acres of plants, or at all concerned about the health of the consumers. Just like Keystone Light beer is cheaper than Blue Moon, there will be different quality of product. As far at the people currently making money off the illegal side.. sorry? I guess that would mean they would need to find legitimate work. When it becomes legal, that means there will be legitimate cannabis related jobs. It's pretty selfish to put personal profits above people's freedom, especially all the people in jail or on probation for less than an ounce of some personal weed. Anyone ever seen the show "Moonshiners"? I'm pretty sure alcohol has been legal for the past 70 years. Regardless, they still have plenty of customers willing to pay $120/gallon for some old school shine. So, once it's legal, there will still be people willing to take the risk and grow/sell illegally.