Questions about Arizona, the state

ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

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Hi All, the wife and I are looking for a new place to move to and Arizona is on the table. Is there a place where you can grow food outside most of the year? We would like to start a small farm and have a garden. I have been to NORML's website to look at growing laws, but some of their stuff seems a little outdated. What are the current laws regarding number of plants and quantity of bud on hand? Can you have guns and still grow? I know what the fed thinks about it, but do you know about local laws? Any input is very appreciated.
 
Ringsixty

Ringsixty

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ClaytonBigsby said:
Hi All, the wife and I are looking for a new place to move to and Arizona is on the table. Is there a place where you can grow food outside most of the year? We would like to start a small farm and have a garden. I have been to NORML's website to look at growing laws, but some of their stuff seems a little outdated. What are the current laws regarding number of plants and quantity of bud on hand? Can you have guns and still grow? I know what the fed thinks about it, but do you know about local laws? Any input is very appreciated.
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I moved from Az. last year, back home.
Spent 5 years boomeranging between my home state and there.
It really isn't a place to grow food year around outside. There is agriculture there. Cotton, Corn, Alfalfa, other things almost grown year around.
Cannabis is better grown inside year around.
12 plants Total, 2.5 Oz usable Mj. But, you probably won't be able to get Cultivation rights, due to the 25 mile rule. Which is BS.

Good Luck
 
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str8sativa

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ClaytonBigsby said:
Hi All, the wife and I are looking for a new place to move to and Arizona is on the table. Is there a place where you can grow food outside most of the year? We would like to start a small farm and have a garden. I have been to NORML's website to look at growing laws, but some of their stuff seems a little outdated. What are the current laws regarding number of plants and quantity of bud on hand? Can you have guns and still grow? I know what the fed thinks about it, but do you know about local laws? Any input is very appreciated.
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really lax gun laws my favorite part about here haha. you can have garden year round you have 2 growing seasons out here since it barley gets a frost in the central part of the state warm season and cool season crops. its another story in the mountain areas which is almost half the state in the northern half and all along the newmexico border to southeastern edge.

if you want to grow bud legally you need to be in the mountains far away from any city because of all the dispensaries and like ringsixty said the 25 mile rule fucks everything up for growers. if your serious about moving here and want to grow look at the dispensary map to give your self an idea.

most of the open area is indian res which they can say they dont recognize your mmj card as valid and take all your shit

http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/documents/dispensaries/dispensary-map.pdf
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ClaytonBigsby said:
Hi All, the wife and I are looking for a new place to move to and Arizona is on the table. Is there a place where you can grow food outside most of the year? We would like to start a small farm and have a garden. I have been to NORML's website to look at growing laws, but some of their stuff seems a little outdated. What are the current laws regarding number of plants and quantity of bud on hand? Can you have guns and still grow? I know what the fed thinks about it, but do you know about local laws? Any input is very appreciated.
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down in the south and center (phoenix, tucson, west to yuma, east to nowheresville) is the sonoran desert. you'll need shadecloth to grow during the hot season there.

go up north to elevation and you get the mugullon rim, you can get wicked cold and snow in the winter (flagstaff, young, beyond).
 
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Azoned

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I live in the high grasslands, south of Tucson.
. You can garden year round, in the desert. Crop selection is important. I don't see a need for shading your mj...except to keep hoppers off...and you can grow some fine meds outdoors.I can't say I have grown at elevations lower than 3200ft...so the folks in the lower desert prolly know better than I...but I had a friend growing in Sahuarita [just south of Tucson] that did very well w/o shade cloth...
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Redbird1223

Redbird1223

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growing anything outside in AZ def comes with a learning curve

As a gardener, here are some hurdles

you're likely to be the only one in your neighborhood with a green thumb. most folks don't want to fight the sun or pay higher water bills, so their properties look like crap.
the bugs WILL notice that
after 95 degrees, most plants will not pollinate. We're often in the 100's all summer.
right now is when I usually garden (backwards to most places) because of the nice temps and I usually don't get a freeze here until Feb.
unfortunately it was below freezing 3 nights this week and wiped out half my garden way early

Obviously the sun is a relentless beast, and my tap water here is 8 - 8.5 ph and around 750 ppm. AZ (in the valley) is not friendly to farmers.

I'm sure closer to Tucson or Flagstaff would be better but most of my garden adventures are frusterating
 
greywind

greywind

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Redbird1223 said:
unfortunately it was below freezing 3 nights this week and wiped out half my garden way early
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That sucks. Would covering the plants up help in that situation or is there just a cold breaking point for the plant? Just curious as I have never grown outdoors.
 
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Azoned

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a hard frost will kill. The babies can stand sub-freezing [25`F] and snow. If they are a foot or more tall, they can get frost tender.
Yes, covering them can mitigate damage.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Azoned said:
I live in the high grasslands, south of Tucson.
. You can garden year round, in the desert. Crop selection is important. I don't see a need for shading your mj...except to keep hoppers off...and you can grow some fine meds outdoors.I can't say I have grown at elevations lower than 3200ft...so the folks in the lower desert prolly know better than I...but I had a friend growing in Sahuarita [just south of Tucson] that did very well w/o shade cloth...
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i had shade cloth in mind for elevations below 3200, in the valley of the sun where the greater phoenix area exists.

can't grow much there in the summer with temps above 100 all the time, even at night sometimes.
 
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Azoned

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I happen to live in a cold air drainage. It gets "cold" at night...all the time. We see lows in the low 60's in the hottest months. Frost can happen, in the drainage, from late Oct-mid April. I lived about 500ft lower and got 2 more months of season. And 100ft up out of the drainage is 5`F warmer, You can feel it get cold as you come down the hill into the valley.
Yeah, the metro area does not cool down at night...much
. You guys got pinched by that cold snap? I would not have guessed. The citrus take a big hit, too?
 
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Azoned

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I have to qualify that statement about standing 25` and snow....if not subjected to it for too long. I had some volunteers come up in January...from me running water to keep our pipes from freezing...that is mid teens cold and 50ish during the day They stood too many frosts to count and snow w/o covering them. I did it to prove a point. These plants are a lot tougher than most of you would believe. They call it WEED for a good reason.
 
Redbird1223

Redbird1223

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all my stuff that was damaged were veggies and flowers. I had already harvested the "girls" , I have a tiny giesel plant out there but she was unaffected

I had some bigger plants go through the hard frost last Jan. I covered them with a bed sheet every night and the buds would freeze solid, but recovered fine each morning
 
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str8sativa

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Azoned said:
I happen to live in a cold air drainage. It gets "cold" at night...all the time. We see lows in the low 60's in the hottest months. Frost can happen, in the drainage, from late Oct-mid April. I lived about 500ft lower and got 2 more months of season. And 100ft up out of the drainage is 5`F warmer, You can feel it get cold as you come down the hill into the valley.
Yeah, the metro area does not cool down at night...much
. You guys got pinched by that cold snap? I would not have guessed. The citrus take a big hit, too?
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my lemon and orange trees are monsters and still thriving. the lemon tree got few dead leaves last year but quickly grew back
 
ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

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Thank you so much for all of your responses! At 85 degrees I start melting, so anywhere where that happens more than a few days a year is a no go. I bet water is very expensive there, thanks for pointing it out! I have been on a well for about a decade and not even considered it. Anyone growing avacados? Citrus sounds great. Hoping to have about a half acre garden for kale, zucc, watermelon, strawberries, carrots, peppers, brocc, etc. No prob growing indoor.

Anyone doing any kind of solar power? I wonder if the state has any grants or subs for that.
 
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