What are your thoughts on a basic income?

[UncleBuck]

Do you think if Walmart or McDonalds lowered their profit expectation they would close down?



That's not what I said.

I said that instead of the increase in cost to pay for the employee's higher wage going to the consumer (raising prices), it comes out of the companies multibillion dollar net profits. The business can raise prices however it likes

you should ask kynes (as i did) for one single example of a business shutting down due to minimum wage increases.

the silence will be deafening, and it will reinforce that he is full of unproven theory (aka republican talking points), bullshit, hot air, and more bullshit.

 

[echelon1k1]

I just slapped my erect penis on the top of my bathroom counter. It made a loud thud.

you can get it to clap by slapping it in that slight dip between your inner ankle bone and heel...

 

[see4]

those cookie cutter homes in AZ have great acoustics, especially for the activity you mentioned.

You ain't lyin man. Jesus.. every fucking house is the god damn same. Doesn't matter if I'm on Dobson and Ocotillo or if Im on Val Vista and Chandler... everything is the damn same.

But, there are some VERY attractive girls here. I walk around with a constant erection. And these girls out here are pretty easy. And many of the them are dumb as fuck. Im talkin beennowhere, Miss KKKynes kinda dumb... really fucking stupid.

 

[Doer]

Here is my thought on a basic income....the thread title, btw.

Oh, fuck, I don't have a basic income. I better get my ass some work.

 

[UncleBuck]

You ain't lyin man. Jesus.. every fucking house is the god damn same. Doesn't matter if I'm on Dobson and Ocotillo or if Im on Val Vista and Chandler... everything is the damn same.

But, there are some VERY attractive girls here. I walk around with a constant erection. And these girls out here are pretty easy. And many of the them are dumb as fuck. Im talkin beennowhere, Miss KKKynes kinda dumb... really fucking stupid.

i'll be at gilbert and ray by saturday night with a big bag of cannabis and staying all week.

if you're not busy, come down to the cafe posada on that same corner and we can drink beers and smoke lots of cannabis.

don't leave me hanging like hemlock did though.

perhaps we can even snap photos of our glorious erections, clad in sock puppet monkeys, and post them for the amusement of our fellow RIUppers.

 

[see4]

i'll be at gilbert and ray by saturday night with a big bag of cannabis and staying all week.

if you're not busy, come down to the cafe posada on that same corner and we can drink beers and smoke lots of cannabis.

don't leave me hanging like hemlock did though.

perhaps we can even snap photos of our glorious erections, clad in sock puppet monkeys, and post them for the amusement of our fellow RIUppers.

That would be glorious! However, I am leaving for Boston tomorrow until Jan 4. Are you down here just for the holidays?

 

[abandonconflict]

You guys aren't making plans near Tucson are you? I'll be here until the 28th.

 

[see4]

btw, funny you mentioned ray and gilbert... right across the street is where i just took my truck to get tinted last week. i like the neighborhood that is right up the road near the convention center...

 

[UncleBuck]

That would be glorious! However, I am leaving for Boston tomorrow until Jan 4. Are you down here just for the holidays?

oh, bummer. yeah, just in and out for the holidays.

You guys aren't making plans near Tucson are you? I'll be here until the 28th.

i have no plans on going to tucson. none whatsoever. tucson is arizona's shameful little secret.

 

[see4]

You guys aren't making plans near Tucson are you? I'll be here until the 28th.

We are up in Gilbert/Phoenix.. about 2 hours away. But might be worth a trip for me at some point. I've not made it down to Tucson yet.

 

[UncleBuck]

btw, funny you mentioned ray and gilbert... right across the street is where i just took my truck to get tinted last week. i like the neighborhood that is right up the road near the convention center...

roger and craig just down ray towards chandler? they worked on my car for years. drunk as fuck, but good work usually.

that whole area where the convention area is was farmland as of 10 years ago. gilbert and ray was a 4 way stop with single lane roads when i moved there 15 years ago.

 

[see4]

roger and craig just down ray towards chandler? they worked on my car for years. drunk as fuck, but good work usually.

that whole area where the convention area is was farmland as of 10 years ago. gilbert and ray was a 4 way stop with single lane roads when i moved there 15 years ago.

crazy... it's totally developed now, all the way down to cave creek, there are some deals to be had still, but nothing like it was 10 years ago.

i came here too late to get the insane deals..

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm flying to Cozumel on the 28th. I had hoped to get out in time to miss Xmas but at least my mom is making tamales.

 

[NLXSK1]

crazy... it's totally developed now, all the way down to cave creek, there are some deals to be had still, but nothing like it was 10 years ago.

i came here too late to get the insane deals..

You missed them by 3-4 years.

Stuff in phoenix was selling for less than the land was worth a few years prior.

Stuff in Maricopa and towns like that was selling at ridiculous prices if you had cash and didnt mind a 40-50 min drive into phoenix to work or whatever.

 

[see4]

You missed them by 3-4 years.

Stuff in phoenix was selling for less than the land was worth a few years prior.

Stuff in Maricopa and towns like that was selling at ridiculous prices if you had cash and didnt mind a 40-50 min drive into phoenix to work or whatever.

i know.. it really sucks. my neighbor.. whom i think i will try to bang in the near future, has real estate all over the area. she got a divorce from her husband, and her settlement she cashed out, she said she paid cash on 3 homes in the area... fuck-n-a.. i always have to work hard for my money.. such bullshit.. but that's the way the cookie crumbles i suppose.

 

[BigNBushy]

amazing the amount of misinformation on the "16th amendment" and the income tax.

the 16th does NOT give any new power to tax, nor did it strike out the existing language that requires Apportionment for all direct taxation of the people.
the 16th was never ratified, the secretary of the treasury simply declared it to be "In Force" which is NOT a power granted to the treasury sec in the constitution.

when there is a contradiction between a law and the constitution, the constitution wins. when there is a dispute betwen one part of the constitution and a new amendment, the older version takes precedence, unless the newer version specifically redacts the older portion, which the 16 did not.

http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/defects.aspx

but since the courts have supported the claims of the state, well naturally the law MUST be valid. just like slavery, Dredd Scott, the Runaway Slave laws, the secession of the southern states, the annexation of hawaii, the breaking of treaties with the native tribes and first peoples, the creation of a standing army, the seating of "czars", the creation of the bureaucratic establishment and it's mandarins, imposition of laws against dissent, prohibition of cannabis, the use of drones in an undeclared war, undeclared wars in general, transferring the power to coin and print money to a private institution ruled by a secret cabal, Jim Crow, and the countless shenanigans used by the FBI CIA and NSA to undermine the government and people of the US and pretty much every other nation in the world...

If you want to have a conversation about how fucked our country is, then we would be in damn near total agreement. Hell you could even add to that list.

I got to tell ya, I have heard people talk about what you mention about the 16th amendment. Boortz even has a whole chapter dedicated to it in his book. I had simply forgot that it is a little different than the others.

I dont, as a rule, stand around a bitch and waste a lot of time on "the way things should have been done," Instead I worry more about how things are, whats wrong with them, and how we can make it better.

Ratified or not, the 16th is in affect. Prior to it all challenges to any income tax had been defeated, and since then it has been upheld.

Regardless of the shitty way in which Washington fucked America (again), the questionable nature of the 16th does nothing to detract from the viability of the fair tax. Do yourself a favor, learn more.

Im often in lockstep agreement with your posts, so I know we got some similar thought process going on. My views on race are a lot different, but on ecconomic issues, which I dont post about much, and you do, I find myself shaking my head in agreement when I read you. I have read the book written by the guy who wrote the legislation presented to congress which we call the fair tax. Its a libertarian idea. You'd probably like it.

 

[travisw]

Im often in lockstep agreement with your posts, so I know we got some similar thought process going on.

I imagine you do.

 

[NLXSK1]

i know.. it really sucks. my neighbor.. whom i think i will try to bang in the near future, has real estate all over the area. she got a divorce from her husband, and her settlement she cashed out, she said she paid cash on 3 homes in the area... fuck-n-a.. i always have to work hard for my money.. such bullshit.. but that's the way the cookie crumbles i suppose.

Most people have to work hard for their money. That is the dirty little secret.

 

[abandonconflict]

oh, bummer. yeah, just in and out for the holidays.



i have no plans on going to tucson. none whatsoever. tucson is arizona's shameful little secret.

Same here. I'm just around for holiday bs. Tucson fucking sucks. My mother moved here for cheap rent since the company she works for had an opening. I guess she just needed a better debt to income ratio for a while. I'm so bored.

 

[BigNBushy]

I imagine you do.

Yup, conservatives think; liberals feel.