Dr Kynes
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i'm not even gonna discuss shit with you when you get on the chompsky bandwagon and redefine well understood terms then declare others are doing the re-defining.
What are your thoughts on a basic income?
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abandonconflict
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Aggregate demand is not bullshit nor is it a hamsterwheel nor is it Chomskeyan. Aggregate demand is the total demand for goods and services in a market. Acknowledging this is the most powerful market force doesn't constitute redefinition of the term.
I'm glad your jimmies are rustled though. I can rest soundly.
I'm glad your jimmies are rustled though. I can rest soundly.
Dr Kynes
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and thus you embrace the worst aspects of both capitalism and marxism.
two bad tastes that taste like shit together.
Dr Kynes
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it's a reference to noam chomsky, a word mongling sophist who uses language to confuse issues and obscure meaning rather than for it's intended purpose, communication.
chomp chomp endlessly gnashes his gums, creating a wordsalad that conveys no meaning save vaguely erudite psuedo-profundities
he's a secular deepak choprah
example of deepak choprah's brilliant wisdom:
[h=2]"Experiential truth expresses ephemeral acceptance"[/h]
http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
Padawanbater2
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Goddamn this fucking website, I just spent 25 minutes writing a reply only to have it erased by the system!
there always have been and always will be fools who hate to let a nickel gather dust in their pockets.
they do not and never have created real growth.
real growth in the economy and society comes from those who are willing to delay gratification, work for what they want, and sweat a little more now rather than toil forever at the grist mill.
thats what you call a Human Being.
the rest are mere animals, brute beasts who only seem to be men.
Padawanbater2
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Not worthy of a living wage?
Dr Kynes
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sucks dont it.
thats why, when im doin a lengthy screed i write it in Wordpad then paste it.
Dr Kynes
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give some people $8/hour and they will spend $8 an hour. give others the same wage and they will work their way through school, learn a trade, work their way up in their employer's organization, or find a better paying job.
if some people win the lotto, they are broke again in a year or less. others can live on that money for the rest of their lives until the government takes it all back from their estate.
some people just shouldnt have more money than they can use, but they do an excellent job of recycling their wages back into the economy.
thats how great fortunes are destroyed by the kids of the guy who built it.
and we are right back to whoring...
(not gonna bother posting another image of Paris Hilton...)
unfortunately our system creates mechanisms where even the most braindead clod can remain wealthy if they have a sufficiently huge starting stake.
a couple generations always sorts it out though.
i dont object to capitalism, or even increasing the minimum wage, but the pretense that a higher minimum wage will do anything but raise the poverty line's numerical value is ridiculous.
see4
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says the guy who uses language to confuse issues and obscure meaning. at least his shit makes sense.
Doer
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I hope everyone can see, we have been on a austerity plan since the credit markets crashed at the end of Bush...another fine President, very similar to all US Presidents.
So, if an Administration heats the economy the govt has to borrow more, based on entitlement structures and the unintended consequences.
Also, if you do a tiny bit of cooling and belt tightening over 8 years or so, then the GDP to Debt ratio improves.
The beauty of our system is that they do not have to explain it. We have no constitutional right to know these plans.
But, each new President, it is now his stuff, foreign and domestic, suddenly he is in CHARGE of it. And He can start new programs.
And he has the duty to maintain the existing programs despite what the opinion mobs may think.
It is all good.
So, if an Administration heats the economy the govt has to borrow more, based on entitlement structures and the unintended consequences.
Also, if you do a tiny bit of cooling and belt tightening over 8 years or so, then the GDP to Debt ratio improves.
The beauty of our system is that they do not have to explain it. We have no constitutional right to know these plans.
But, each new President, it is now his stuff, foreign and domestic, suddenly he is in CHARGE of it. And He can start new programs.
And he has the duty to maintain the existing programs despite what the opinion mobs may think.
It is all good.
abandonconflict
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Worse than austerity. US has a quarter of the world's prisoners. Each one costs tax dollars.
NorthofEngland
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In 2010 the US spent more on it's prisons than the rest of the world combined.
It had a higher percentage of its citizens imprisoned that South Africa under Apartheid or the USSR communist system.
From a non-US, global perspective the most frightening aspect is that the US quickly develops economic 'complexes'.
Military Industrial, Narco Prohibition and Imprisonment....
Many towns in US are economically dependent on the local prison.
Stop locking people up for victimless crimes and the economic consequences mean voter disapproval.
Sad but true.
NorthofEngland
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quote from DOER
"The beauty of our system is that they do not have to explain it. We have no constitutional right to know these plans."
Yes-being kept in the dark by the public servants that were voted into office is a truly BEAUTIFUL system.
I just had sudden de-ja-vu of Nixon saying
"If the President breaks the law then it is not a crime...."
David Frost
"....I beg your pardon, Mr President".
Republican isn't an anagram of SOPHISTRY
but it should be.
"The beauty of our system is that they do not have to explain it. We have no constitutional right to know these plans."
Yes-being kept in the dark by the public servants that were voted into office is a truly BEAUTIFUL system.
I just had sudden de-ja-vu of Nixon saying
"If the President breaks the law then it is not a crime...."
David Frost
"....I beg your pardon, Mr President".
Republican isn't an anagram of SOPHISTRY
but it should be.
abandonconflict
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Private intelligence surveillance complex.
NorthofEngland
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Economies, in effect, become 'addicted' to the worse possible things....
War, weapons research, carrying on a 50 year failed campaign called the War Against Drugs and criminalising a massive percentage of your own citizens for choosing to enjoy certain substances....
Let's not even start on the covert surveillance theme....
As a European I am very concerned
As an Englishman I am ashamed of my governments lapdog attitude towards anything the US asks,,,,
abandonconflict
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UK is more than a lapdog.
Dr Kynes
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the institutionalization of programs and policies is a direct result of the bureaucratic machinery.
the US is rapidly becomeing a mandarin state, eith each little perfumed prince visciously defending his turf against reduction or elimination, while the eocono-frootloops continue to engage in "Baseline Budgeting" where every line item on last year's budget simply continues, no matter how wacky or failed it may be, with a 3-10% increase over last years funding.
this has been constructed based on the foolish assumptions of Keynesian economics, "Aggregate Demand", and the desire of the bankers and bureaucrats to keep every dollar in circulation constantly circulating.
this is why they NEED inflation, NEED massive government spending, and NEED rampant taxation.
if the people were to stop buying on credit, start saving up for what they need and want, and pay off their debts, their economic schemes would fall apart like Michael J Fox's Jenga Tower.
it all goes back to the creation of the federal reserve system, and placing control of the economy in the hands of a star chamber of hooded sinister schemers.
if you want to control a country, you have to make sure that all economic activity goes through your hands, or the hands of your servants, otherwise people might do something silly with their money, like buy land, or pay for their kid's education, or NOT buy a new iPhone every year.
they have created a nation of complacent dolts who allow advertising and celebrity halfwits to determine how they use their economic power, rather than logic, reason and self-sufficiency.
if you agree to become a cog in the machine, they got a spot ready for you, if you prefer to do your own thing, well... thats CRAZY, you must be a "Right Wing Loon"!
UncleBuck
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no you didn't. let me remind you of the claim that you need to cite:
Australia's McBurgers do not pay Australia's minimum wage to all (or even most) of their employees
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oh, that is just fucking precious.
you still have not addressed how a wage hike of 41% and a big mac hike of 15% counts as passing on all the extra costs.
why?
because it violates your republican talking points.
you still have not shown me one business that has ever gone under due to a min wage hike?
why?
because it violates you republican talking points.
what an unremitting failure.
UncleBuck
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double irony because you just ad hommed me after failing to cite your shit.