U.N. Asks U.S. To Justify Latest "Cruel, Inhuman" Drone Attack That Killed 15 Yemen C

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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
Oh yes, of course, all the Yemese people that were on the Hijacked planes that crashed into the twin towers, how stupid of me not to know this.

That and the war in Yemen.
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yemenese?:lol: they are referred to as Yemen or the Yemen people.

any country that harbors enemy combatants of the United States of America is an enemy. period.

perhaps these countries should consider who they are in bed with.

further the afghans are a disgrace for harboring bin laden.
 
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schuylaar

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Bombur said:
I wonder how many people have joined up against the US because of these types of attacks. How has our government not learned that our ridiculous foreign policy only results in more blowback, more hatred for our country? Do our citizens really want this? Could the average US citizen even point Yemen out on a fucking map?

How long can we justify our global policing and imperialism? I think I want out...
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Awesome! lets pack it up and bring 'em all home and let those in the Middle East take care of their own shit..

whats that? No? We can't do that?..what would we do with all those defense dollars to spend?..what to think, what to think?
 
see4

see4

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schuylaar said:
Awesome! lets pack it up and bring 'em all home and let those in the Middle East take care of their own shit..

whats that? No? We can't do that?..what would we do with all those defense dollars to spend?..what to think, what to think?
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I know! I know! We could bring home the troops and put them back to work rebuilding infrastructure. Or, or, we could invest in new energy technologies, or, or, maybe education?

Crap.. that won't work. That's way too marxist.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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schuylaar said:
yemenese?:lol: they are referred to as Yemen or the Yemen people.

any country that harbors enemy combatants of the United States of America is an enemy. period.

perhaps these countries should consider who they are in bed with.

further the afghans are a disgrace for harboring bin laden.
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A) The Yemeni People...

B) The One dropped the term enemy combatant in 2009.

C) Perhaps the US should consider who it is in bed with

D) Pakistan harboured UBL

E) You're an idiot
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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see4 said:
I know! I know! We could bring home the troops and put them back to work rebuilding infrastructure. Or, or, we could invest in new energy technologies, or, or, maybe education?

Crap.. that won't work. That's way too marxist.
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You may find some interesting reading if you research the PRUSSIAN SCHOOL SYSTEM used in the USA and why it's not been such a good thing. Public education is the 10th plank of the Communist manifesto, btw.
 
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NoDrama

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schuylaar said:
yemenese?:lol: they are referred to as Yemen or the Yemen people.

any country that harbors enemy combatants of the United States of America is an enemy. period.

perhaps these countries should consider who they are in bed with.

further the afghans are a disgrace for harboring bin laden.
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Yeah, I don't even know where to start really. So Snowden is an enemy of the USA, so you now consider everyone in Russia as your sworn enemy? To be considered an enemy combatant you need to be in the military, to be considered a civilian combatant you need to be actually engaged in armed conflict. You actually think its just fine and dandy to go kill little babies and small children whenever we want because somewhere in that whole country there is an actual "enemy" in it? Sounds like you cheered when President Bush made the same kind of comment, did you?

Of all the hijackers on 9/11, how many were from Yemen?

I hear France has a couple Al Qaeda folks living there, those damn french, we should kill them all, nuke Paris in retaliation for them having those people there.

I wonder how many Al Qaeda are secretly living in Florida? Perhaps we should just kill everyone there? Sound like a good plan to you? After all it was Florida that harbored Ziad Jarrah ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziad_Jarrah ), who was an ACTUAL hijacker that flew one of the planes into the towers.

So in your book, any children or random old person or even a baby that gets killed by accident by the government is A OK in your book, seeing after all how you all harbored a terrorist, that makes you all enemies of the state now.
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
Yeah, I don't even know where to start really. So Snowden is an enemy of the USA, so you now consider everyone in Russia as your sworn enemy? To be considered an enemy combatant you need to be in the military, to be considered a civilian combatant you need to be actually engaged in armed conflict. You actually think its just fine and dandy to go kill little babies and small children whenever we want because somewhere in that whole country there is an actual "enemy" in it? Sounds like you cheered when President Bush made the same kind of comment, did you?

Of all the hijackers on 9/11, how many were from Yemen?

I hear France has a couple Al Qaeda folks living there, those damn french, we should kill them all, nuke Paris in retaliation for them having those people there.

I wonder how many Al Qaeda are secretly living in Florida? Perhaps we should just kill everyone there? Sound like a good plan to you? After all it was Florida that harbored Ziad Jarrah ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziad_Jarrah ), who was an ACTUAL hijacker that flew one of the planes into the towers.

So in your book, any children or random old person or even a baby that gets killed by accident by the government is A OK in your book, seeing after all how you all harbored a terrorist, that makes you all enemies of the state now.
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You forgot Mohammed Atta..
 
echelon1k1

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State-sponsored terrorism substantially increases the likelihood of successful and more lethal attacks within the United States
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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echelon1k1 said:
The US should not be employing signature strikes aka crowd killing/terrorist attack disruption strikes on innocent civilians. Please familiarised yourself with how it works because in reading your post I get the impression the justification for these strikes is multi-sourced, target centric intelligence - the FACTS could not be further from the truth.

Drones were employed specifically as the "smart" way to conduct "war" - eliminating collateral damage, mainly innocent civilian casualties. For the most part this seems to not be the case.
Every time the US kills an innocent they end up creating at least 2 new recruits to jihadist causes. Proof is the kill list which allied countries work off (JPEL) which is ever expanding.
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http://www.criticalthreats.org/yemen/al-qaedas-gains-south-yemen-july-8-2011
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/al-qaida-seizes-territory-in-yemen-s-hadramawt-1.1187876

Yemeni foreign minister Abu Bakr al-Qirbi told Reuters in September that the drone strikes were a "necessary evil" and a "very limited affair" that happens in coordination with the Yemeni government.
Other Yemenis, and some U.S. politicians, say the strikes and civilian casualties are increasing sympathy for AQAP and resentment against America. AQAP, which has scattered across the country, is now targeting local police and security officials, who have only tenuous control in Yemen.
There are near daily suicide attacks on Yemeni police and security forces, which Yemeni officials blame on suspected AQAP militants. On December 5 more than 50 people died when an estimated 12 militants attacked the Yemeni defense ministry compound in Sanaa.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-yemen-us-drones-insight-idUSBRE9BC0A020131213

citations provided.

if the yemeni government could handle their own problem they WOULD HAVE DONE SO.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Dr Kynes said:
http://www.criticalthreats.org/yemen/al-qaedas-gains-south-yemen-july-8-2011
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/al-qaida-seizes-territory-in-yemen-s-hadramawt-1.1187876

Yemeni foreign minister Abu Bakr al-Qirbi told Reuters in September that the drone strikes were a "necessary evil" and a "very limited affair" that happens in coordination with the Yemeni government.
Other Yemenis, and some U.S. politicians, say the strikes and civilian casualties are increasing sympathy for AQAP and resentment against America. AQAP, which has scattered across the country, is now targeting local police and security officials, who have only tenuous control in Yemen.
There are near daily suicide attacks on Yemeni police and security forces, which Yemeni officials blame on suspected AQAP militants. On December 5 more than 50 people died when an estimated 12 militants attacked the Yemeni defense ministry compound in Sanaa.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-yemen-us-drones-insight-idUSBRE9BC0A020131213

citations provided.

if the yemeni government could handle their own problem they WOULD HAVE DONE SO.
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Warmongering stoners. I can only hope you're taking one for the team out of an attempt to prove we're all not hippies. But I'll tell you, I'm a proud hippy.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
Warmongering stoners. I can only hope you're taking one for the team out of an attempt to prove we're all not hippies. But I'll tell you, I'm a proud hippy.
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hardly a warmonger, i would prefer that our military be drawn down and tasked with defending OUR country, and inspecting those who wish to enter, whether legally or illegally, but that cant happen when dirty smelly leftists demand our borders be open to every dipshit with a sob story.

our nation is barely a nation any more, since we do not control our own borders. any asshole who wants to enter america can do so, only our distance from sandland prevents more frequent attacks by those primitive tribal religious nuts.

if dropping a few bombs on hajis in their huts keeps them from sneaking into southern california or arizona, fuck em.

lefties and neo-cons want the world to operate as a global community (each for their own reasons) but huge communities are NOT villages, and the more strangers around your house, the more need you have for guns, and a steely eyed stare.

anyone who ever lived in a small town and moved to a big city knows well the result of cramming strangers together. the assholes feel empowered to do as they please by their anonymity, and the regular people are forced to desperately protect what they have from the assholes.

put that shit on a global scale, and you get a horrorstory and the very problems which lead to an authoritarian state, 1984 style.

and thats the goal. from the leftists and the neo-cons.

the left want to implements marxist theories, but violent proletarian revolution just doesnt sell any more, so they resort to fascism

the neo-cons want to rule the world through banking and money-fingering, but compound interest just isnt putting the world in their pockets quick enough.
 
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schuylaar

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dr kynes said:
http://www.criticalthreats.org/yemen/al-qaedas-gains-south-yemen-july-8-2011
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/al-qaida-seizes-territory-in-yemen-s-hadramawt-1.1187876

yemeni foreign minister abu bakr al-qirbi told reuters in september that the drone strikes were a "necessary evil" and a "very limited affair" that happens in coordination with the yemeni government.
Other yemenis, and some u.s. Politicians, say the strikes and civilian casualties are increasing sympathy for aqap and resentment against america. Aqap, which has scattered across the country, is now targeting local police and security officials, who have only tenuous control in yemen.
There are near daily suicide attacks on yemeni police and security forces, which yemeni officials blame on suspected aqap militants. On december 5 more than 50 people died when an estimated 12 militants attacked the yemeni defense ministry compound in sanaa.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-yemen-us-drones-insight-idusbre9bc0a020131213

citations provided.

If the yemeni government could handle their own problem they would have done so.
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oorah!!!!!!
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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Dr Kynes said:
http://www.criticalthreats.org/yemen/al-qaedas-gains-south-yemen-july-8-2011
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/al-qaida-seizes-territory-in-yemen-s-hadramawt-1.1187876

Yemeni foreign minister Abu Bakr al-Qirbi told Reuters in September that the drone strikes were a "necessary evil" and a "very limited affair" that happens in coordination with the Yemeni government.
Other Yemenis, and some U.S. politicians, say the strikes and civilian casualties are increasing sympathy for AQAP and resentment against America. AQAP, which has scattered across the country, is now targeting local police and security officials, who have only tenuous control in Yemen.
There are near daily suicide attacks on Yemeni police and security forces, which Yemeni officials blame on suspected AQAP militants. On December 5 more than 50 people died when an estimated 12 militants attacked the Yemeni defense ministry compound in Sanaa.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-yemen-us-drones-insight-idUSBRE9BC0A020131213

citations provided.

if the yemeni government could handle their own problem they WOULD HAVE DONE SO.
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Your Reuters link only further proves my point - that killing innocent civilians with hellfire missiles only creates sympathy and boosts recruitment numbers among jihadists.

So even with coordination from the Yemeni government the US still cannot target the right people - and you're defending this ridiculousness... WTF?
 
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