Well narcotic's are always good hahaha.
The herbal stuff is actually really good, i initially i got it to try as a come down. Like i said i got a festival coming up and im sketched to mix any kind of benzo/opiate with everything else that will be available. I figured a natural cure could possibly do the trick.
The kratom was nice to, i ate 7 grams and had some nice effect's, id compare it to being similar to 1000mg of lortab without all the itchiness. Apparently from what ive researched Kratom effects the same receptors as opiates and from my experience i would concur with that analysis.
Im going to try a fatter kratom dose within these next couple days, probably try 14 or so grams. Only problem is it taste god awful...
Overall i think i liked the Kava Kava more then the Kratom but then again i took a MUCH steeper dose of Kava Kava, ill let you know in a couple days how that fat Kratom dose goes