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No need for french here as we all speaks english and most true Americans should refrain from supporting the french as they betrayed us in the early Iraq days and only came on board later when they couldn't save their oil nuke interests since I think they're the ones who built it for Saddam. And...

Thank you for having the courage to come forward to try to put an end to this kind of spin on these "cheap" factor chinese brand-name generic versions. Even HID's will have bashers and clouded opinions.

I sincerely apologize as I totally agree with u that I lost my temper because I simply started in this thread in spirit of contributing to the it's title. The following is not an excuse for my actions but an explanation. If u go back to my orignal posts, I did no more than to question the...

Yeah, I know. I'm desperate enough to doctored up 3 separate companies, not just one to look better. lol. Yeah, I'm just a chump pitching cheap panels and never used a so-called brand-name panels before since those cards are photoshoped so I don't think I can afford those high-priced quality...

Originally Posted by SupraSPL It is OK to use red in veg, actually it is ideal. You just have to balanced the spectrum. KNNAs recommendation for 25-30% blue to control stretch is still applicable. I use lots of red and deep red in my veg panels, no problems with stretch. You're right...

You're right, reds are needed for veg. just not as much especially the 630's. The 660nm and far reds are more for flowering. You'll be fine as long as u have enough blues, especially 470nm which is the most readily absorb blues. This thing bout they don't need any reds makes no sense as they...

So can u please tell me how has he made a fool out of me. He hasn't been able to prove anything but still trying. I gues EH from A51 don't know what he's talking about when he agreed with me. But yet, I'm still putting up with all this crap just to hopefully sell some panels here and make how...

A-51's panels cause too much stretch because the lights are geared for flowering?? That's completely false. I've read numerous posts from A-51 owners who worry that the panels might be more geared towards veg, and perhaps not enough for flower. I own an XGS-190. Stretching has not been a...

Ok, I see the mentality here. FUnny, Those who know me knows damn well I'm currently testing them but that's ok, sir. What the hell do I want to sound knowledgeable for. Bragging rights? It's obvious this kind of mentality has gotten a lot of us humans killed. Can u please tell me where is...

What do u think. lol. First thing u got right bout me. lol. Let's drop the nonsense and get on to discussing more useful topics as RIU is not the Jerry Springer Show so let's not make it so.

If u follow my posts I've been doing a lot of testing with the white spec. since I bought the Apache and found the spec. spot on. It actually mimics the actual par curve very closely and gives u the advantage of all the bands in between vs. the red spec. which targets only peaks therefore; they...

Par, intensity, and wattage is everything cause without it, means failure. It's ovvious the "I" in HID is it's magic. Not fancy, bells&whistles or wishful 1/10-1/3 of HID's wattage. Spec. is a given as most legit red and white spec. are fine.

or make and repeated stated this. When I was asked for a recommendation, I rather answer it by PN since posting it would be pushing it wouldn't. WHat's up with the double standards here when everyone is asking for suggestions since they're new to the industry. I tried to educated people on...

Your ignorance is amazing, bud. Really. He didn't encourage me. He agreed and confirm what I said. So how come that doesn't make him a parasite. By the way, grow up and stop calling people names like an idot.

That's what I tried to do and I get this so why don't u take the issue to this person. Like I said, let's be democratic bout this and let the people decide cause I'm tired of this kind of bs, really.

fprgot. Regarding the visitation of the factories. If you were not so blinded by prejudice, u would noticed I asked EH if he's ever been to china and the factories before making any comments so he answered me. I asked him that becasue I've been there and know and have seen first hand how...

Calm down. I challenged your veracity not because you "questioned the cartels", but because in each case you either matched or trumped the person you were responding to. I was tempted to post something about my 300' gold-plated yacht to see if you'd owned one too. I never matched anything...

Ok, sir. Even though I knew there will be reaction like this so how am I supposed to handle this situation to your liking. Let's do this. I will never ever recommend anything again because it wil be construed according to a person's belief be it good or bad. So I'll let OutofLEDCloset answer...

YES! Sounds like christmas tree lights, especially strips. Cool!

what intimate specs would u like to know? Maybe monkey can summon some answers from the spirits? Lol. Don't hold me to it though, but he'll try his best.