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  1. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    I use NSA stainless steel shelves in my veg area and I have Kessil spotlights coming up and from the sides and a bunch of lower wattage bulbs to fill in the areas that are not being "penetrated" but no light movers for me since I'm in major earthquake country. I've just heard horror stories of...
  2. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    I'm with you on this. It's not how many watts you use, but about placing the light properly. Most panel users have light on the edges going unused. Some spots on the side do allot to make use of otherwise wasted light on the edges. So are you using t5s or straight up CFLs? If they're t5s just...
  3. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    CFLs in cali but yes in the winter months temps are on the low side. 3000k for flower 6500k for veg.
  4. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    With that mind set there would be no "impressive completed grow journals" for the luxury of your reference. Some people have to be the daring ones, and from what I've seen the spectra are no better than any of the other "good LED". The first round of all these lights ALL sucked ass except the...
  5. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    And that's how I got my start with my LED obsession. Used with HPS until I consistently favored the results of the LED. The more panels you get, the more the footprint will increase. With 1 panel there is allot of light going unused/ wasted at the edges. With a second panel you can use the...
  6. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    True until you start combining a number of panels and then you get closer to a third of the wattage. The reason is there is allot of unusable wasted light pouring on the edges that becomes usable when doubled/ tripled up. By using more than one panel you can combine/fill in the unusable areas...
  7. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    To all the haters. Front page yahoo news! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_netherlands_sunless_farming. Is that a HPS growing those peppers in this article about indoor gardens of the future?? Nope!! Those are some LEDs!
  8. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    The other widespread application of 660nm LED is anti aging lights for more youthful looking skin. I wonder which LEDs, wattage, angle and blah blah is used in this bulb. If they are 2 watt bulbs I could increase the amps to push more juice through. Even if they are only 1 watt and angled right...
  9. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    So the word on LED grow has gone something like this. "LED grows stretchy light starved plants," to "LED is good for veg but cannot grow through the flower cycle". "LED can flower but only popcorn buds", "LED can grow buds but density is not there" "Density is there but LED has a lower yield"...
  10. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    Every HPS user I know is either thinking of going LED or quitting entirely. It was the decision I was faced with. Lower product prices and rising energy rates.
  11. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    HAHA!! wtf are you talking about?? Do you even know? LED are being used in commercial grows all over. Commercial medi growers in cali fully rock LEDs. The only commercial growers in cali who don't use LED are those operating illegally by bypassing their power meter and stealing power from actual...
  12. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    The friend who first got me looking into LED uses only blue at 430-460nm in his veg. When he switches to 12/12, he only uses red 630-660nm. The premise is that depriving your ladies of the reds during veg causes them to react much more when switched to all red. The red wavelengths are still...
  13. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    yeah blasting them in from any angle is the ONLY thin I like about kessil. Ok so by my calculations at about $80 for 12w that's about $7 a watt and at $240 for 36 w for the kessil is about $7 a watt. So about the same price. 3 of them equal a kessil in price and wattage so the benefit of the...
  14. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    So what did you decide on?? I can never tell if you want to go LED or if you're an LED hater. If you decided on a good unit you will be satisfied with your purchase and change the minds of any skeptics you know. I know this because I've had people telling me I'm stupid for going LED and they...
  15. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    Couple more bulbs and a that ufo of yours in this fixture would be pretty tight. http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/satellite-system-for-ufo-led-grow-lights-p-1760.html. So I also found the bloom boss http://www.bloomboss.com/bloombossspot.html. Same generic Kessil looking outside, but the same...
  16. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    If it's only $35 and works to grow they are totally worth it. The only reason I haven't already ordered some is because they have no contact info on their site at all. It wouldn't be much of a loss if all I ordered was one bulb. Their panels look sic. The daisy chain would solve my problems with...
  17. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    They look allot like the 12w lights from alien grow http://www.aliengrow.com/led-shop/ Do you see any difference??? If not these are only $35 and I already had my eyes on them.
  18. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    I go sog because I don't know how I would do a perpetual harvest if I did scrog. On your lighting question are you going from clones or seedlings?? Either way three blackstars would be a waste. If they are only starts go with one those blackstars and keep them raised for 48 hours and then drop...
  19. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    I was accused of being a pitchman for Kessil because of how excited I got about their lights, and I got my medicine on that one. Now I'm sure I look like I'm selling ISIS but what it comes down to is every LED user is putting down some serious $. The larger they are going on their purchases the...
  20. 660nm420

    Led Users Unite!

    That's why it annoys me that we have a user on here that doesn't want us to talk about brands. How else should we talk about LED units that we have issues with or those that we have satisfactory results from?? btw in all fairness the KEssils are doing the trick just not as tight as the ISIS. And...
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