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What's the BOM run on something like that?

Just to clarify. I believe the A51's are also made in China. The only thing USA about them is the design from what I've read.

The roots coming up out of the soil line are unreal. It does make me wonder though if they aren't getting enough water elsewhere in the pot. I see a lot of circling there. Might improve your yield to go with a Rootmaker pot to avoid that wrapping, and the 'mushroom' you ended up with.

Were the blumats fairly easy to implement?

Regardless of how excellent the site is, I'd rather steer clear of the paid-bias. OK back to LEDs. Found a sweet article by the Mythbusters about Cree warm-whites being the best out there--> The Best LED Lightbulb is the Cree Warm White I wonder how long before everyone just starts ditching...

All it took me was about 2 days of posting and a few days of scouring to determine that site is complete marketing BS. The site is lobbied heavily by PR staff and any journals using non-sponsored lights are promptly deleted. What a joke. I won't be returning there anymore.

Thanks BK. I apologize for making my entrance to these forums so dramatic. No hard feelings toward EH, as I am obviously busting his balls since he came into the discussion all hawty-twatty. I can see that the TopLED threads are clearly marketing campaigns. Wanted to make sure this one wasn't...

If I had heard all that from EH, he might have had a lifetime customer. I'm sure the light will speak for itself. I actually believe it's going to be a spectacular panel, and I'm also glad to have gotten the top-tier in part quality. Good to know. I'm a skeptic by nature and am still new to...

Wow I'm astonished at this guy's audacity. I hope for the sake of his employees that the business can survive with that kind of mentality at the reigns. I hope future customers see the way you acted here before making their purchase decision. First off: I was happy with my purchase until your...

I have no problem believing any of that, however is it worth double the price to cover a 4x4? If someone has $500 to spend and the only thing they care about is GPW, would the Mars II be the best option? I'd have loved to hear something from EH about how more efficient their unit is with the...

I don't think either is better, and never said that I did. I was hoping someone would explain why the A51 lights are double the price to cover the same-sized footprint. EH, as your customer, that response was really not the kind I'd hope to get from the company owner. Comes off extremely...

Yeah after spending countless hours scouring through multiple forums, I'm starting to fear I just paid double what I should have paid for my 3x3 tent. It seems like a whole bunch of people are killing it with the Mars II lights. Other than warranty, I don't see why the A51 lights are double the...

So am I gathering that the less-expensive Mars II lights from TopLED are only breaking even with the A51's? Don't the A51's use like half the wattage of those big Mars panels? I would expect that the Mars II would produce somewhat better results since they use almost twice the wattage. Please...

The 2014 XGS-190 I ordered just shipped last Friday. Seems like they got their latest shipment of units in, but EH might have more info. Stoked to try this panel in a brand new 32x32x60 tent I bought especially for it. Going to try 4 different variants on the hempy bucket with coco/rockwool.

IMO It'd have to be a LOT quieter for me to spend another $100 or so on the pricier model and a speed regulator. Wouldn't matter much to me in any case since it's already drowned out by my circulation fan--even still on #2 setting. The one thing I noticed is that any fans I've used with an...

I know we're straying from the topic here, however while we're discussing fans I'd like to recommend the Max Fans, which have a built-in speed regulator and run SUPER quiet. A 6-inch model will only set you back $140 (free 2-day shipping with Prime). On low (with cheap insulated ducting...

OK replying directly to my a51 order confirmation got me a quick response. So FYI to anyone else dealing with A51: If you want a response, skip the website contact form and just email the [email protected] address.

Starting to feel bummed about my a51 led purchase. There is no number listed on the site and they aren't replying to my emails. No idea when or if my xgs-190 will ship. This is definitely not the customer service experience that others on this forum said I'd receive.

Took the plunge with a single 2014 XGS-190 today. Plan to see how it fairs with a 3'x3' scrog grow once my 1000w PPK grow finishes up in about 5 weeks. I'll be keeping a detailed log with this new light and report back once I know if the A51 koolaid was really worth drinking. I'm completely...

* edit * Disregard. I read prices wrong. The A51 seems like the clear winner for the $500 range.