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Don't go into with the idea it will be so much easier knowing what strain your growing. Sure it will notify you of factors that may be a mystery to you now. But you can just as easily run into one of the many issues a new grower encounters.

And using the excuse of "well the asked so I told them" is crappy. You need to recognize your not good at giving advice then. When you give advice you need to put the persons situation in perspective to give the appropriate advice. Otherwise your simply stating what you would do and most likely...

I just think we need to keep it in mind when it's a first time grower. Just because someone has a good operation going and it isn't worth their effort to save it they act as if everyone is in the same boat. When in reality if he chops that and starts over he's got nothing to do while he waits...

This is coming from the perspective of a first time grower two weeks into flower. I don't care how much work is ahead of me I'll do what ever I have to, to get something out of them. The absolute last thing I want to hear (and most likely not the right answer) is just chop them down and start...

Why is anyone so quick to tell a first time grower it's too Much work chop and start over..... this is his first grow he's gonna want to get something out of it, and with the picture of his big bud he can. Your not gonna be able to pull out of this, this late in the game and get a killer yield...

Thanks man, I feel like I got the veg proccess down pretty well. But I'm also feeling like flowering is a whole other animal.

Well I figure at least 6 will carry me through another grow but that would be rather disapointing. My buddy's grow I mimicked other then his light (I went led he uses HPS) he gets 12-14 average per plant. So I was hoping my 12 for both was low lol.

That orca paper is really nice.....

Ty! I def had a lot of kinks I worked out through veg being first time around. But I'm hoping I can limit the mishaps during flower. I have some pretty high expectations for yield and quality for a first timer....I'm hoping to get 12 between them.....cross your fingers....

On my way to work, I'll get to check that out when I get out enigma. Figured I'd give a short update. They def did not like my full line, and were trying to drink them self out of drowning. If you touched the leaves your fingers would feel wet. Lowering it to bottom of net last night seemed to...

You NE coast?

but I've seen 8gal square buckets id kind of like to use instead of my 5gal circle.

Yea that's my chiller system I don't have hooked up, 3 buckets. Lot of trial and error with leaks and keeping the three level. Tried automatic return lines, couldn't return fast enough. Got a pump wasn't enough. So I'm gonna just get two of the same pump on send and return. Edit: also have...

I don't know if I'm ready to go that elaborate. But I was thinking of going to totes or something larger, and looks like I'm only going to feel that more and more as I'm just going into flower. Lots of info in there, lots more to read.

also when do you guys switch to flower nutrient?

4 gallon is putting it an inch from the brim, so might only take 2.5. I didn't measure how much I dumped. Edit:talking about with root mass displacing water.

Kinda sucks if keeping it to the bottom of the net pot is what's gonna fix this, roots are big, only gonna be able to put like 3 gal in there.

So let's get this out there because I've heard it brought up other places. Do you fill as much as you can in there or do you say fill until it touches your net pot?

Wow so I think it's def my fill line they aren't likeing it now....water level obv dropped and significant improvement. Tank temp was 71.8 that's shouldn't cut off oxygen. But fresh tanks and leaves getting wet and puffy again. I'm dumping another two inches.

Also as I just gave them fresh buckets 2 weeks into 12 hour, thinking I should probably be switching to my flower mix? I actually just gave them a refresh of full veg mix.