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Well I'm not saving too much, it really uses 395w and I was using a 400w Super HPS with a digital ballast before. I basically wanted to say I was using an LED at least equal to a 400w HPS just in case they were not as amazing as they said. But it beat my expecations by a good while and I realize...

Day 11 or 12 of 12/12 for my 3 female and 1 male (who has since been culled) under my 395w (252x3w LED + (6x3w fans) in .8 gallon air pots They had definitely gone from veg to flower after 3 or 4 days of 12/12, they had been showing preflowers for 2-3 weeks before the switch though.

Looks good, but is it a fair comparison with the other(s?) LED panel in there with the 200w?*not sure what it is. I will be following that company for sure though, impressive I think (wondering what 2 in a 4x4 would do at 25w per square foot). here are some pics of my 11 or 12 days of 12/12...

I 2nd that if anyone has a link to it. I'd bet money on people thinking they were using more LED watts than they were, and that they were not 3w diode panels (and especially not full spectrum) Thanks for that video bad karma! From the comments on that video: @fugi2002bx 9.5lbs , leds cost...

Day 11 or 12 of 12/12 with my ~400w LED (its rated 395w and actually draws 395w-400w). These babies had matured before I made the switch to 12/12, and were definitely flowering within 3-5 days (unlike the 7-12 I had with my 400w HPS). Some of you may remember a 4th plant in my pics, but I gave...

See that is pretty good even though its done with outdated UFO LED panels. I want to see a warehouse grow with 3w diode full spectrum panels!

Yeah I could tell mine was flowering within 3-5 days too, although mine were matured seed plants not clones or anything like that (seems these LEDs can give people flowering 1-3 days faster than HPS?). But I'm afraid 1 of the 4 feminized Nirvana Ice I had growing is now a boy, its budding...

Yeah LED is definitely more practical for people growing in a house instead of a warehouse. I don't think it would be too hard though because you could make use of light movers just like you could with HID. I think the reason why we don't see much of that yet is because the LED panels/companers...

To my knowledge over feeding doesn't cause yellowing, its usually a deficiency (I believe though that too much of one thing can lock out another making it look like a simple deficiency, but its probably not that likely without also showing signs of burning). Over feeding usually looks like...

You should see how serious it would be had he loaded them with Mykos on top of giving them an awesome LED light :P It would be too serious, I'm thinking I will only use it when I plan to SCROG lol nice plants irish, love the colors. Reminds me I need to show you mine and how they are doing 11...

I only gave my first LED flowered harvest 9 out of the 12 weeks it should have had, and the buds were definitely not fluffy then (even the popcorn is much more impressive than my HPS popcorn ever was). I am pretty sure the fluffy you speak of is another issue that only really follows crappy LED...

My money is on some combination of 2 or 3 of the following: nitrogen deficiency, zinc deficiency, and iron deficiency. I'd probably put most of my money on Zinc. To me it does not look like you are giving too much of anything, it looks like it isn't getting enough of certain micro...

With how much better full spectrum 3w diode panels are doing than what most people have seen done with crappy 1w no lens and crappy 2w panels, it will not take 10 years :P Things have changed so much in the last 12 months alone for LED, there will be no doubt that LED is viable in the next...

People who believed you could replace a 400w or 600w HID with a >100w panels didn't know much about 1w/2w/3w diodes, how much power their panels actually used, and how they realistically performed. Now that good ones have been out for a little while I believe I've seen enough that most people...

I'm a bit curious and confused, what is with people growing autos on 12-12 in here? Is it because they need to grow them with regular plants on 12-12?

Yeah people are forgetting that you are going to buy replacement bulbs, possibly replacement ballasts, you are going to need heavy duty cooling fans or extractor fans to take care of all the heat from the HID and possibly their ballasts, then there might be air conditioning on top of all that...

Lumens are not a good way to measure any light because lumens are for humans not plants. Lumens isn't a measure of how much light there is for plants is how much light there is for people to see, like candle power (candles are not very good for growing plants). You will get more lumens with HID...

Its because the diodes are reliably pulsed or something at a max wattage of say 1w or 2w or 3w. But you can't continuously run them at that wattage or they would very quickly burn out. 1w diodes are the most efficient with turning power into useable plant light and little heat waste, but they...

Yeah I didn't mean recoup the 1100 in savings because I'm using less power (because I'm using too much for my space), I meant if I were to sell what it grows its first run at street/retail value it would be easy to get that 1100 back and more the first harvest with it. Yeah LED will cost a lot...

The blackstar are a pretty good investment, although there are other companies I think with panels that will last longer and have longer warranties. The only question really will be how much heat they make, we know they will grow well enough for their true wattage.