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You're a bit wrong and right there. Lets say we have a true 100w LED from a great company, and a 100w HPS from a great company. The 100w LED will wipe the floor with the 100w HPS because it has focused reflecting lens on every LED, light production is spread over a greater area, wavelengths are...

What are the rules concerning adding micro buggers to the soil to make your plant more awesome? That is the trick up my sleeve to win this contest :P And no it wouldn't be an illegal thing or one that would make it so the bud isn't safe

Just wanna make sure, you do know autos are not meant for 12/12 correct? *that they are meant for 18/6 - 24/0 from seed to harvest Yup darn plants can just burst, I'm sure you'll be happy

Are you going to see if they give you an excuse/explanation and offer something to keep you happy? What if when they show up you tell the UPS/FEDEX guy you don't accept it and they need to return it, then demand a refund from them and start a ticket or whatever with paypal? I don't know how long...

Not much about good LED panels apparently, but that is not your fault as there are many crappy LED companies out there pushing crap. Check out Irish boys LED grows on here for starters (there are a lot more LED grows at 420mag than here). I am convinced because I've seen about a dozen completed...

LED plant growing panels have made big strides in the last 12 months. Many companies are now finally switching from 1w diodes to 3w diodes so they get much better penetration and light output, and several more have started using the tech that keeps 1 dead LED from taking out a bunch of others...

Did you take a switch to 12/12 picture? :P

I think the most annoying issue is manganese/K, while it can be easier to notice discoloration under an LED light it is harder to diagnose it because its such an odd light. If you can get us some pics of the plant problems under normal light we could help better.

Yeah, I should really do better to keep journals here to prove my LED. But I've also noticed that the people who say LED can't flower as well as HPS have not seen grows done with good panels who have never used LED before

The most reputable/provenwithfinishedcannabisgrows to me are growledhydro and blackstar, isis, and another I can't recall the name of...

That would be a terrible waste as most of the light produced by HPS is useless to plants. The advantage to LED is you can target very specific wavelengths and use as much of them as you want, where with HPS its a brute force method and you waste a lot of power on crap you can't use (useless...

Sorry I thought I read you were growing in a 4x8, yeah for a 4x4 I would either get a single big one like a good 500-600w or a couple smaller ones like two GLH 290s or two Blackstar '500's

Not exactly a good thing because then you have to pay even more for what you get, you risking losing even more when something goes wrong (and shipping it to them or back is gonna be a bigger bitch), they get heavier and heavier, etc lots of good reasons not to do that. If you don't think they...

Yeah but what kind of fan are those things and how many CFM do they move?

Looking good! Gonna be even better when you get that other light in there!

Don't knock them until you've tried a good company/panel. Problem is most people end up buying crap or are tricked by talk from companies into buying something that is not as good as it is said to be, and is several years behind the LED leading tech/companies. The companies I know to be a safe...

LEDs are not loud compared to loud gaming computers or most filter fans. My big 395w panel is a little less than half as loud as my 190 cfm filter (and it has some kind of leather jacket to reduce noise?), like I said you can't hear it from outside on the ground right below outside, you can't...

Speaking of clones, if you go 12/12 right away on a fresh cut clone how much longer does it take to root/get going that on cut and cloned under 18/6 or 24/0? Or how does a small clone do in 12/12 right away compare to seeds grown 12/12 of the same strain?

"LED Bulbs Power: 0.2w x 225 LEDs (total of 45w)" no wonder!

I am very satisfied if not annoyed with the amount of penetration from my 252x3w 12 wavelength 90degree lens LED panel. It penetrates the upper canopy so well the plant starts growing new tops everywhere and I have to keep trimming stuff back so I can see anything and feed it. It is definitely...