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I was afraid of that. It seems like a good idea until you get into buying the seperate ballast. They know how to word things right to try and trick you. I almost baught the thing. Its still not a bad price, its just not what I thought. Thanks for the info there man.

Thats awesome. Thats exacttly what I need. How much do you have in it already? Just the ballast. I need to get on the ball and get another one myself. I think I will try the type you have because thats just awesome switching it from one to another.

It sure is. Thats where the money would be in the ballast. The reflector is cool though. I dont think I want to buy just the reflector and have to buy the ballast seperate,

Im sorry, what does that say? I think it says "it doesnt convert the bulb into both" I guess I read wrong or something. Or maybe my computer changes the words up or something. Lol. I cant believe you dont understand what you wrote has nothing to do with what I said. Like im asking what a ballast...

Thanks, I will get to fucking soon. Thanks for the good luck. Most people would pout there way off.

Wow, I didnt expect it to take that long. Thanks for the help

If its a dumb question then yes I would expect smart ass comments but you clearly did not understand the question one bit beause you go straight in to, " you said your plants had no problems but your asking for help". Uhhh, I asked for help on budding, not how to fix my perfect plants. What a joke.

Ok, my plants are bushy though even after 11 weeks. They are just over twofoot now. So im guessing thats a good start point for moving to 12/12. Thanks for the help.

Lol, yeah I like that one though. I will take fantasyland anyday. Im trying to get there now.

Hell yeah, sounds like its alot easier and inexpensive than seperate ballast.

You know what man, just stop trying to give me advise because you dont comprehend what your reading or something. Im not trying to be mean but I didnt say anything about one bulb being mh and hps. If you look back, it clearly says, " in the ballast".

Yeah, I know its not the bulb. The thing I was amazed with was that this ballast is made for one mh and one hps in the same ballast. Im looking at it right now and it has one mh and one hps on the other side. Look at the eco enterprises website and look it up. www.ecogrow.com

How many 2700k cfls should I need for two plants? About 4 to 6 you think?

Thats what I cant wait to see.

Im not trying to get an attitude man, I just hate when somebody gets on a thread and starts typing smart ass things. Like the grandmaster grower. Now your just trying to be funny. I am looking for help, not trying to bitch back and forth like a fifth grader. No I didnt read the faq. I am new to...

Cool, thanks for the help. I knew to switch to 12/12 but I didnt know when to do it.

Yeah, thats why when I saw that its mh and hps in one ballast, it blew my mind. I got a magazine from eco enterprises and it had it in there. Check it out, they have some good deals it seems.

Look man, im just asking someone who wants to help me out. If you just want to try and make me look stupid then I dont want you two cents.

Ok, I have had them on the 16/8 schedule. Your saying I should go ahead and switch to the 12/12 or should I wait and switch later?

I just love how some people have to try and make somebody look stupid but in turn make themselves look stupid. Did I not make myself clear that I am looking for an answer on when they will bud. I didnt say there was something wrong with my plants.