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Say what? The "classic way" would be to lower prices to the point your competition cannot compete and is bled out of the market. Raising prices would likely have the exact opposite effect, forcing yourself out of the market because your competition wouldnt have to do anything to undercut...

Does it cost money? Is there any benefit to having an advertiser account? Im assuming advertisers get banner ads linking to sites? I mean, to me it kinda seems like a sucker move. It's ultimately just a public forum and there doesn't seem to be anything stopping anyone from advertising...

Its called marketing... Clearly there is a large market for these boards residing in this particular (public) thread. So why not advertise here? It makes business sense, of which, many users in this thread clearly lack.

I look forward to seeing/testing this tech in 10-20 years...

This is actually kind of hilarious. Shows the rabbit hole you can open yourself up to when you make it "DIY" rather than plug and play. Great customer support, sure, but also a serious waste of time IMO. Especially considering you probably could have crowd sourced all the information you...

Doubt it. Like I said, they should stick to growing. Are these QBs patented? What does the patent protect? And the million dollar question is whether it would even make sense financially to pursue legal action... Yeah. Stick to growing guys....

Welcome to the joys of a PUBLIC forum... plenty of benefits but also it's fair share of drawbacks...

If one thing is clear, people here may be good at growing, but they seem to not know a damn thing about the realities of the business world. lol Live and learn.

Yeah, but if youre figuring out a total cost per gram, then you pretty much would have to know the gram per watt? No? And thats an ACTUAL gram per watt, as in all power devoted to the grow, not just the light. Figuring out a G/W for a light is easy if you have the basic information...

Why can't you divulge more information? Why not just link to the leds? Or what your plans are? I can assure you no one is going to swoop in and buy these out from under you lol...

Something along this route is probably your best option for least power usage.

So youve chosen to waste $17 lol. Sorry man, a peltier will almost certainly not work.

So Im assuming they are all dirt cheap chinese crap? "Full spectrum" seems pretty vague without an SPD to go with it, no?

So just to be clear, "Warm white @3000-3500k" is the option you have, and not a choice between 3000k, 3200k, 3500k etc?

Care to elaborate? Or is curiosity just another form of skepticism now?

Well it could certainly be where the confusion stems from unless you sold back the same amount of electricity during each cycle... Which depending on location/season it could vary significantly... You felt it wasnt pertinent because this doesnt apply? Always sunny? Do you live in...

No matter how you try to justify it, your mark up is completely insane. But theres that age old adage, Fools and their money... Thats the funny part about advertising on forums, kinda hard to avoid getting called out on shit.

Why dont you address the actual points I addressed? Did I ever claim you were being shady about 1+1=2??? Nope, but how bout your other scenarios involving Crees vs Epistars? Or why dont you ever answer how efficient the drivers you use are? The reason you dont address these points is...

If you're willing to go the diy route there are many ways to more efficiently cool leds than hid.

See now I can safely assume you do profit off these lights, so now I wont feel bad on calling you out on any bullshit claims you make... You cant see the irony here? lol How bout you answer the point I made in my previous post, Ill even restate it for you... You realize in your...