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I assume the Gavita and Solistek Matrix have double ended bulbs? How tall are your cellings and how big is the room?

+100 What about a T5? Are they cooler than CFL?

The guys at the local hydro grow store say Green Cleaner is good. Let us know.

The ceilings are only 7.5 to 8 feet high. Soil in 20 gallon pots for trees and maybe 16 of them. I like the idea of the LEC's using only 1200 watts and cooler too. I would probably put the Gavitas on light mover but two may not be enough. The double ended Gavita's will also be hot.

Which model? Do you like them?

No idea on humidity? You can get a temp/humidity gauge at wmt,hd or Lowes for $4. Stop being cheap and buy some fans too.

If they are tiny babies then I would put them a few inches away. The other posted suggesting 8 inches sounds abut right. The younger the plant - the more delicate. I use 2 t8s on babies and still have a few inches away. T8s are not as strong as T5s.

Mars Hydro do not work well in flower and are only okay in veg I would get an 8 bulb T5 before I bought another Mars Hydro. If you want DIY COB LED try this: http://timbergrowlights.com/ I am debating on a 315 W LEC myself. I may buy the conversion kit (dig ballast and plug adaptor) for $167...

LOL! I think that might work.

I am phasing out humidity domes and soil but I can get roots in about 12 days with that. I bought a Clone King 36 for about $80 and I am about 4 days in and I am impressed. I think by Day 10 to 12 I should have roots. Just be patient.

I was in the grow store the other day coveting a 315 LEC. I need lots of light width. I saw one of those huge almost 3x3 light reflectors. The XXL or Raptor which is 41"x30.75" I need some major coverage. I think 2 LECs still might be better than on mega HPS reflector.

Great. How are the plants looking? I know after a rinse/drench they look like a drowned rat but how do things look when dry?

Thanks for the update. Let us know how it works out and if it affects the smoke. Glad things are working.

Thanks for the update. Do you add any dish soap with peroxide & iso?

Oh man you are bringing me down. I thought in the old TV show "Kung Fu" that grasshoppers were some divine being. ;) Poor old grasshopper.

I want big buds and 2 lb per plant. Low yields bring me down man.

He does not appear to be eating anything but defecting sometimes on leaves. I hate to kill him because of bad karma. I have been told that killing spider mites does not create bad karma. I guess I can try to catch him but that may bring me down man. Any suggestions?

I am not sure if you want to spend the money but buy an electric bug fogger and use spinosad. https://www.google.com/search?q=electric+bug+fogger&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4rOuSvePOAhVN_WMKHbFzBdEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=651 Check the instructions before you buy.. Some foggers only...

Yeah. I am not impressed. They are even worse in flower. A waste of money. People et conned by Amazon reviews for these cheap Chinese LED lights. T8s are weak but if I hit them with 300 watts of T8s (that is a lot of T8s) versus 300 watts of a Mars Hydro - I am sure the T8s would win. T5s...

Did you try watering her with just water for a few days? She might flush but maybe not.