1 Billion Dollars Hacked?

Harrekin said:
Isn't your national debt either at or close to 100% of GDP?

That coupled with an endless deficit and shitty growth is not the rosey path you make it out to be.
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actually the deficit has been cut by two thirds (all under obama) and out growth is over 5% right now.

so besides having your facts completely and utterly wrong, you are right.


Harrekin said:
As for owing most of the money to yourselves, you owe it to the Federal Reserve (a semi-private organisation) and if you failed to repay any of it your debt would be reduced below investment grade and your currency would unravel.

It's rarely (if ever) as simple as declaring "self-rule" and getting an automatic victory.
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rawn pawl lost, get over it.

i know, getting over things is tough for you, since you are 4'11''. but try, OK?

thanks.
 
see4 said:
You might be slightly retarded. No, no.. you definitely are fully fucking retarded.

Let me try to understand your point of view on this.... You think, that some poor schmo, that say; has 2% stake in a business that pulls in $10,000,000,000 a year in government contracts will not see any return in this endeavor ? Is that what you are saying here? Are you saying the Federal Defense budget does not appropriate hundreds of millions if not billions in commercial contracts? And that stakeholders in said commercial contracting companies do not benefit from said contract? Please tell us that is not the basis for your argument. God, please tell me that's not the case.

And if it isn't, please rephrase your comment to something I can understand.

Best wishes,
see4
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So, you start with saying I am retarded and end with showing that you are. The Secretary has to put all his finances away in Trust. to be Secretary. That goes for all of them. So now you are also gone stupid. That is not the basis of my discussion point and you are simply beneath arguing with.
 
Harrekin said:
Isn't your national debt either at or close to 100% of GDP?

That coupled with an endless deficit and shitty growth is not the rosey path you make it out to be.

As for owing most of the money to yourselves, you owe it to the Federal Reserve (a semi-private organisation) and if you failed to repay any of it your debt would be reduced below investment grade and your currency would unravel.

It's rarely (if ever) as simple as declaring "self-rule" and getting an automatic victory.
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WTF??? I mean the payment to service our debt. Our debt service to income is all that matters. And we borrow form ourselves, and we pay ourselves back. We do that because we have the cat-bird seat in this world. We do it because we can.

I just bought a house. It is 7 times my yearly earning. But, why did they loan me the money?
I can service the debt, is why. I have Capital Standing.

The USA is Capital Standing. BTW, self rule is about victory.
 
Doer said:
WTF??? I mean the payment to service our debt. Our debt service to income is all that matters. And we borrow form ourselves, and we pay ourselves back. We do that because we have the cat-bird seat in this world. We do it because we can.

I just bought a house. It is 7 times my yearly earning. But, why did they loan me the money?
I can service the debt, is why. I have Capital Standing.

The USA is Capital Standing. BTW, self rule is about victory.
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Until the next debt ceiling increase.

Riddle me this, why does Ireland have 50% lower bond yield rates than the US?

Your "Capital Standing" is what is in question when a country that needed an international liquidity injection (bailout) and that has a lower ratings agency grade has a lower bond yield than yours.

Your sort of blind nationalism is the exact sort of thing that allows facists to take hold.
 
Doer said:
So, you start with saying I am retarded and end with showing that you are. The Secretary has to put all his finances away in Trust. to be Secretary. That goes for all of them. So now you are also gone stupid. That is not the basis of my discussion point and you are simply beneath arguing with.
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Following the end of Operation Desert Storm in February 1991, the Pentagon, led by then defense secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.[21] Halliburton crews also helped bring 725 burning oil wells under control in Kuwait.[22]

In 1995, Cheney replaced Thomas H. Cruikshank, as chairman and CEO. Cruikshank had served since 1989.[23]

In the early 1990s, Halliburton was found to be in violation of federal trade barriers in Iraq and Libya, having sold these countries dual-use oil drilling equipment and, through its former subsidiary, Halliburton Logging Services, sending six pulse neutron generators to Libya. After having pleaded guilty, the company was fined $1.2 million, with another $2.61 million in penalties.[24]

You are so full of stupid it is totally fucking mind boggling.
 
Doer said:
How foolish to think the Secretary can benefit personally from the defense budget.
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You are a terrible troll. You obviously do not believe the things you write, nobody is that fucking stupid. Seriously.
 
see4 said:
Following the end of Operation Desert Storm in February 1991, the Pentagon, led by then defense secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.[21] Halliburton crews also helped bring 725 burning oil wells under control in Kuwait.[22]

In 1995, Cheney replaced Thomas H. Cruikshank, as chairman and CEO. Cruikshank had served since 1989.[23]

In the early 1990s, Halliburton was found to be in violation of federal trade barriers in Iraq and Libya, having sold these countries dual-use oil drilling equipment and, through its former subsidiary, Halliburton Logging Services, sending six pulse neutron generators to Libya. After having pleaded guilty, the company was fined $1.2 million, with another $2.61 million in penalties.[24]

You are so full of stupid it is totally fucking mind boggling.
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How did we get to Cheney? The story Halliburton is the result of no bid war contracts. There are very few contractors that are War Zone Qualified. It is very expensive to maintain the Qual. But, that stuff is way over your head.

Then they hired Cheney. So, you are swerving all over as usual when you have no real point.
 
Harrekin said:
Until the next debt ceiling increase.

Riddle me this, why does Ireland have 50% lower bond yield rates than the US?

Your "Capital Standing" is what is in question when a country that needed an international liquidity injection (bailout) and that has a lower ratings agency grade has a lower bond yield than yours.

Your sort of blind nationalism is the exact sort of thing that allows facists to take hold.
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Because you don't take China Gold to defend the global Sea Lanes.
 
see4 said:
Following the end of Operation Desert Storm in February 1991, the Pentagon, led by then defense secretary Dick Cheney, paid Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root Services over $8.5 million to study the use of private military forces with American soldiers in combat zones.[21] Halliburton crews also helped bring 725 burning oil wells under control in Kuwait.[22]

In 1995, Cheney replaced Thomas H. Cruikshank, as chairman and CEO. Cruikshank had served since 1989.[23]

In the early 1990s, Halliburton was found to be in violation of federal trade barriers in Iraq and Libya, having sold these countries dual-use oil drilling equipment and, through its former subsidiary, Halliburton Logging Services, sending six pulse neutron generators to Libya. After having pleaded guilty, the company was fined $1.2 million, with another $2.61 million in penalties.[24]

You are so full of stupid it is totally fucking mind boggling.
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it's like he doesn't know that blind trusts are the oldest gimmick in the book.
 
Doer said:
Because you don't take China Gold to defend the global Sea Lanes.
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Lol.

The Chinese are your financial backers (well were until even they realised they were buying junk).

America couldn't win in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria.

The United States is already a lame duck due to people like you allowing your nation to rest on it's laurels.

It was the greatest country on the planet and could be again but it's definitely not at the minute.

Again, I'd trust the traders outlook over your fact-less opinion piece.

I say again, Ireland has 50% lower bond yields and was only upgraded from "non-investment grade debt" recently.

When was the last time the US had investors buying debt at NEGATIVE interest rates?
 
Doer said:
So, you start with saying I am retarded and end with showing that you are. The Secretary has to put all his finances away in Trust. to be Secretary. That goes for all of them. So now you are also gone stupid. That is not the basis of my discussion point and you are simply beneath arguing with.
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In this filing, Cheney disclosed the following Halliburton income:

• Salary/bonus (gross): $821,896
• Elective deferred salary: $403,166
• Stock equivalent unit bonus: $396,213
• Senior executive deferred compensation contributions: $53,692
• Elective deferred salary lump sum payout: $1,140,160
• Restricted stock imputed income: $7,560,000
• Nonqualified stock option income: $21,964,254
• Senior executive deferred compensation payout: $2,797,128


Doer. You are so very dumb.
 
Harrekin said:
Lol.

The Chinese are your financial backers (well were until even they realised they were buying junk).

America couldn't win in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria.

The United States is already a lame duck due to people like you allowing your nation to rest on it's laurels.

It was the greatest country on the planet and could be again but it's definitely not at the minute.

Again, I'd trust the traders outlook over your fact-less opinion piece.

I say again, Ireland has 50% lower bond yields and was only upgraded from "non-investment grade debt" recently.

When was the last time the US had investors buying debt at NEGATIVE interest rates?
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your coutnry sucks and is a joke. america is the dominant force in the world today and you are jealous.

like always, you fall a little bit short. or a lot bit short, in your case.
 
see4 said:
In this filing, Cheney disclosed the following Halliburton income:

• Nonqualified stock option income: $21,964,254
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DEFINITION of 'Non-Qualified Stock Option - NSO'

A type of employee stock option where you pay ordinary income tax on the difference between the grant price and the price at which you exercise the option.

INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS 'Non-Qualified Stock Option - NSO'

NSOs are simpler and more common than incentive stock options (ISOs).

They're called non-qualified stock options because they don't meet all of the requirements of the Internal Revenue Code to be qualified as ISOs.

He certainly was not hurt by his position, eh?

It's not clear when Cheney sold his stock options, but it likely was within weeks of his being named to the ticket -- a period when Halliburtion shares hit their 2000 peak, in the low-to-mid $50 range. By November 30, 2000, the stock had fallen to $33 a share. If he'd waited until then to sell, his payday would have been one-third lower, or roughly $14 million rather than $22 million.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...matthews-says-cheney-got-34-million-payday-h/
 
Awe Doer, foiled by facts again!

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So I've seen some reports saying this was just a test run. The people behind it are looking to wipe out world financial markets in one swoop..what is it 90%+ of money is digital? could be interesting..
 
WeedFreak78 said:
So I've seen some reports saying this was just a test run. The people behind it are looking to wipe out world financial markets in one swoop..what is it 90%+ of money is digital? could be interesting..
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Unless they intend to use EMP weapons, I doubt a bunch of "thieves" have any intention of wiping out financial markets. It's rather antithetical in relation to their actions, do you agree?
 
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